now that i'm stuck here @ home on mandatory lockdown, a fun time to revisit some of these old tuts I never finished - aha Phil, I didn't catch the first time around that there is swing groove on stuff... aha! Phil, such a good tut because you show how much is possible just within the DAW all by itself - you deftly use ableton's envelopes, etc. for the loops as a sort of "gate" etc... to echo the sentiments here, some really good basic techniques here that truly remain classic and timeless and are still very relevant today!