How To Make - Synthwave with Timecop 1983 / 221

Comment #3 - day 2 - I’ve just thrown down my pen, shouting “F’king idiot!” and that’s not toward me. There are times when he goes too fast and I have no idea what he has done. When this happens, I am left guessing and clicking anything in the hope it is what he did. That’s a massive headache. He did something to create a transition to another part of the track - I could clearly see him changing things, but he didn’t show me what he actually did to change it. This only led me to have holes in my track as I simply couldn’t follow him at times. When I am PAYING for a tutorial, I shouldn’t have to skip anything at all. Tha’s why I’m here. That’s what I’m paying for. The goods. The beans. All I end up doing here is watching you do your thing. I am not PAYING to watch you do your thing, I can get tha from youtube.

Automation clip - I have no idea what you’re talking about. Don’t have plugin so can’t follow along. Just sat watching. As said, I can get that for free on youtube … just sit and watch. I don’t even know how to emulate what you did. Have to skip this part in the track. So my track has holes now. Two holes - because I either don’t have the plugin or you didn’t explain things.

Hey there @mfairhurst75

First thing first, thank you for sharing your feedback & personal experience as well as encountered frustrations or/and struggle while diving into this full course here on the forums, that’s why the forums is here for :wink:

Been through your comments and I’ll try to provide some general feedback and rules when it comes to online learning from those “How to make” full tracks courses.

IMO, one of the most common mistake we all make when watching & try to follow such tutorials is about our expectations and thinking that we’re gonna be able to reproduce & match the same sound & final Mix out of it.

Well, it’s not ( and almost never ) the case in the end. There’s many reasons for this, going from DAW & specific plugins used by the artist/tutor as opposed to what we have at our disposal, years of experience & practice from those producers contrasting with our own understanding of terms & techniques especially when we’re beginners, our very own room & listening environment which in the end will make the end result to sound quite different from the artist’s Mix, even if we were able to use the exact same gears, DAW & Plugins and turn the knobs & adjust settings to really match what the tutor did.

So the wrong & disappointing expectation here, is to start watching such tutorial and thinking we’re gonna be able to get the same end result by simply replicating an exact process.

Sit, watch & then re-watch : take notes of terms & things you don’t feel familiar or comfortable with and acknowledge those as areas you need to learn more about or dive more into. If at a certain point you feel like there’s really no point to try to complete your own full track from a tutorial, then don’t focus on achieving the all thing, pin-point & focus on areas that you think are stopping you from doing it : that’s probably where you need to understand & learn things better as a beginner and that’s very normal, we’ve all been there :wink:

I really think that it’s more important to get a good understanding of “what, why & how” instead of expecting that using the exact same plugin & settings will get you there. There’s a multitude of plugins available out there, from the “in the box” tools that come native with our DAWs from renowned & expensive 3rd party manufacturer’s ones as well as very good free alternatives. Let’s take compression as an example : are you gonna skip a lesson because the tutor is only using that very expensive 1176 comp emulation and keeps on praising it as the only & best one to achieve his sound ? The real question here is what type of compressor is the 1176 ? Tube, Fet, VCA ? How does it work ? How fast does it respond ? On which audio material is it good to use it ? Drums, vocals, synths ?..etc.

The same story goes for each “type” of effects and let’s say that you watched a course, bought a 3rd party plugin and got good results with it following a tutorial, the next week you’ll be watching another course and you’ll find out that another producer is using something different or even says the opposite things on the previous plugin and that you should use this new one instead.

Could be a never ending story here, never gonna be good for making progress & get some fundamentals knowledge in the end.

Another point with those tutorials is about how each producer/tutor explains things. Keep in mind that’s there’s a huge difference between having skills to make a hit record or a good damn Mix and then explaining how it was made to others. Not all producers have equal teaching experience and ease to share their knowledge, there’s nothing wrong with this, we all remember good & bad teachers from school too, not everyone has got the same skills for it, simple as that.

When it comes to learn about Music Production and especially as a beginner, I think it’s important to realize that nothing is gonna happen overnight. It’s a journey and a never ending one, it takes a lot of time & practice, trials & errors and more than this the ability to learn, unlearn & relearn. Nothing is written in stone, there are not real golden rules that work 100% of the time, you’ll have to adapt for each tracks, the only thing that matters is what comes out of the speakers and again, it takes a while & quite some frustration in order to get something pleasant & nice to our ears out of our speakers.

DAWs & Plugins are just tools and while we can discuss or argue than ones performs better than others, it’s not the key point in the end, the real thing is about how they affect our audio sources, why & when we should or shouldn’t use them as well as understanding that we have many ways to achieve similar results. Another example here could be achieving side-chain compression : back in time we only knew about using a compressor to get that pumping effect, now we have ducking filters like Xfer “LFO Tools”, dynamic EQ like Waves Factory “Trackspacer” and many more.

So on a more practical approach when following any online tutorials, I think it’s good to highlight what’s not clear to you and try to put in in a topic like “compression”, “side-chain”, “delays” or “reverb”…etc.

Separate your technical learning sessions from your more creative ones, don’t hesitate to try different techniques & to use different tools and keep on with trial & errors until you feel that you’re making progress with your own productions. The very good point about tutorials here on Sonic Academy is that we have the chance to dive into seasoned and experts artists/producers tracks & workflow, with tracks that work for the listeners. While you can also grab a lot of knowledge from other YT videos, some teaching & techniques are not always reliable or they will cover something very specific that won’t work in a full Mix & song crafting contest.

If you have something that you feel needs to be more explained, point the matching videos number/title and a specific time-frame and ask your question here on the forums, me, someone else, or even the tutor himself sometime, will try to answer your question or/and point you to other interesting learning resources as well.

It’s definitely overwhelming at the start of the journey, there’s no doubt about this and even experienced producers are still struggling with certain topics & techniques in Music Production. You’ll be learning along the way, yes it takes time & efforts and I would be lying telling you that you’ll get instant gratification & success overnight : no, progress comes at the cost of a long time learning & practicing as well as numerous and big frustration moments, but if you’re passionate about it, you’ll get through this mind set and it will definitely be rewarding after some time.

Hope this helps :wink:

Cheers !

hi @mfairhurst75 - I remember when I started in the Daw world around 2011, I was sooooooo frustrated. I came here on Sonic Academy and everything from the 2009 tutorials seemed so magical… you eventually will catch on - like anything learning, from riding a bike to driving a car to cooking your favorite dish “perfectly” it takes coming back to it with a fresh perspective - and not giving up.

Here in this tutorial, Timecop’s version of fl studio is really really different from what we have today. fl studio has come a long way. it’s evolved. and actually, the truth is a lot of what is shown here can now be done easier thanks to the new features. i read your comment about automation clips.

here is a good resource i just found: https://itsgratuitous.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-using-automation-clips-in-fl-studio-20/#:~:text=%20I%20just%20showed%20you%20how%20to%20create,will%20now%20be%20the%20length%20of...%20More%20

I also recommend the Firewalk tutorials for Fl Studio. free on youtube. The guy has an amazing voice. I think of him as the “Bob Ross” of Fl studio (Bob Ross is the legendary painter from old-days public television - you can google him - he’s the source of many an inspired meme!)

hey, if you want to contact me with your questions, I’d be happy to help however I can: marztecheque@gmail.com

I have OBS and voiceweeter, allowing me to screen capture my sessions and then I could send videos over to you on email, no problem! good luck! the image-line.com forum is a great resource too, many people post questions and the community there is largely supportive and encouraging! Good luck!

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oh i forgot to mention: @mfairhurst75: you should watch the “How to Use Fl Studio” courses done by Owsey. They are really good. I even watched Beginner 1 a few months back - and the coverage of important, handy shortcut key combinations in the first 5 minutes alone had be going, “dang! I didn’t know that! I better watch this!” It’s a great tutorial. Try that one first… you can search in the courses by “software” and you will find it… ugh… if I leave the chat post now to find the url, I’ll have to type all this again. I think there’s How to use Fl Studio level 1 and then Owsey again does How to use Fl Studio level 2 - from about say a year and half or so - maybe 2017? can’t remember exactly. but most if is still very relevant/on target! i’m such a duh - I meant to mention Owsey’s courses here as the very first thing!!!

Edit : Here’s the link to the tutorial https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/fl-studio-12-beginner-level-1

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Damn good !

Great course!

Excelent course! At last something easy to follow.

Good video but its a shame that the arrange window in this old version of fruity loops actually hides a great deal of information. Watching the track play and watching it scroll there isn’t much too see and what you do see doesn’t seem to reflect what you hear. I found the arranging and building parts of this track really hard to follow which is a shame as its actually pretty simple. it would have been nice to watch this play in any other DAW but this old version of fruity loops.
This is the best kind of synthwave. The vocal pop stuff is awful. More of this please.

This was great. As a long time Fruity Loops user, this gave me a lot of insight as to the simple touches that create the ambiance I’m looking for as a synthwave producer. You’ll be hearing from me, I promise that!

Great and clear!

a no-frills and straight to the point course, just great sound choices and ideas. His music sounds BIG, loved it

hi all!! real good course! i’ve read al lot of comments and i can see your side… but over all i think is a good course… good sound design!
I’ll ask only a thing: some one can explain the chord progression and key of the track?

Hey there @Stain

According to Beatport the track is in the key of Gbmin. As for the chords progression, he’s rather using single notes based bass line, synth arp & lead following the key of the song than complex chords IMO.

This is an excellent course. To be clear, it is not a “how to use FL” course (I use ableton personally) or a “how to design sounds with X synth” course, it is a “how to synthwave” course and it is great at that.

I loved how the instructor introduced different sections of the arrangement throughout the course. I lot of times you get 10 videos working on the same two bar loop and then 1-2 videos on arrangement. This was much better.

I have seen some complaints in the comments about the use of so many synth plugins. And yeah there are a lot. But a big part of synthwave is its use of some iconic old synth sounds and often times that means plugins. I will say that the only one used in this course I really think is essential is the Korg Polysyx (that bass patch is synthwave). The others can be replaced with cheaper/free alternatives.

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Fantastic video, also thank you for adding the presets, This has saved me a let of hassle trying to replicating the sounds in the vst’s regards Teeboy :sunglasses::+1:

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Great Tutorial, loved it.

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Great tutorial. The song created shows some of the structures/patterns used in synthwave. it was a pleasant lesson

I am using a demo version of Lush101, and I can’t figure out how to load the “Main Arp - Lush 101.SHPRST” preset into Lush101 to replicate the Brash preset he uses. In Lush101, if I click on Load preset in Settings, it only allows .fxb or .fxp files. Is this a limitation of the demo version, or am I missing something? Thanks!

Hi there @scarridale

I’m not sure about the limitation of the demo, but here’s what you should try to install the Main Arp - Lush101.shprst preset in D16-Lush 101.

1- Launch an instance of Lush 101 and Open the Presets Browser from the GUI.
2- Click on an empty space on the 1st left folder location and hit the New Folder icon to create a new folder.
3- Do the same in the second location to create a sub-folder.
4- Double Click on each folder and rename them as you want.

5- Close the Presets Browser and click on the OPTIONS button top left.
6- Select the Presets Tab to reveal the Presets installation path.
7- Close Lush 101 and remove this instance from your DAW.
8- Browse to your Presets path on your computer and manually copy Main Arp - Lush101.shprst into the new folder/sub-folder ( i.e : here I created a User Preset folder and a Arp Sub-folder where I copied the preset file ).
9- Launch a new instance of Lush 101, click on Options, presets and hit the Update Presets button.

If you still don’t see the new preset, delete this instance of Lush 101 and launch a new one, you should be done.

Hope this helps :wink:

Cheers !

Great tutorial. The song not too complicated for begineers and theres tons of explanations on details