it all sounds very easy now, but i cant think straight because of that mirror!
[quote]jpgetty2win (19/05/2010)[hr]
its not the the KEY youre after but the root note of the key. meaning you dont need to worry about if its in the key of G minor or G major just aslong as its G… and thats obviously easy to work out. just get the kick thumping away and play the bass up your keboard till you hear the same pitch ;) (i obviously just used G as an example… it could be any note, but you guessed that… sorry lol)[/quote]
Yup +1
Root note - Goes to Key - But then you could also choose a Key that G is also a component note.
Whatever sounds right in the end… but basically get a few tracks in your daw that you like & split them up & check out whats going on.
Dont forget, its all about octaves / Layers… Kick, Bass, Snare etc… They all share their own freq range which is - unsurprisingly - Musical.
A simple Sine synth will help you locate the notes of the samples you’re checkin out.
[quote]mussi81 (19/05/2010)[hr]if i had a choice i would do the xxxx call on me video!
no i wasnt taking the p*ss ive basically learnt a lot from this thread. i dont do ANY of the things youve talked about, now i have a “frequencies of musical notes” chart and have been looking at music key siganures and circle of fifths and all sorts on youtube
the hardest thing i think will be working out the key of the kick[/quote]
Mate - You’re greedy!
You’ll need help if you are doing to do that Vid!
You can Call on us to give you a hand! Count me in anyway! LOL ;) :hehe:
[quote]mussi81 (19/05/2010)[hr]it all sounds very easy now, but i cant think straight because of that mirror![/quote]
I know - I hope she continues to have a successful and prolific career! 
[quote]icn (19/05/2010)[hr][quote]jpgetty2win (19/05/2010)[hr]
its not the the KEY youre after but the root note of the key. meaning you dont need to worry about if its in the key of G minor or G major just aslong as its G… and thats obviously easy to work out. just get the kick thumping away and play the bass up your keboard till you hear the same pitch ;) (i obviously just used G as an example… it could be any note, but you guessed that… sorry lol)[/quote]
Yup +1
But then you could also choose a Key that G is also a component note.
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doing this will mean youre working in modes, and thats, well, ermm, quite advanced in musical theory really. stick to the basics if youre not too upto date with the theory of music.
but as the saying goes… if it sounds good, its good… alot on here are worried that they should get into learning theory. its true, theory is great to know cos it makes u QUICKER at making music, but doesnt necessarily mean its going to make your music better.
youll hear alot of big name musicians talk about the “happy accident”. thats when something sounds good and has no real theoretical reason/ logical reason or that the composer just didnt think about doing it for it to sound good.
what im saying is, just jam and play about, youll probably come up with something better than if you know the theory behind it.
yes i went off on a tangent. lol
ive just googled “musical modes” :crazy:
lets just say im gonna leave that one alone for a bit and get to grips with the above first 
[quote]mussi81 (19/05/2010)[hr]ive just googled “musical modes” :crazy:
lets just say im gonna leave that one alone for a bit and get to grips with the above first :)[/quote]
lol ye they, for some reason, enjoy explaining things in complicated ways… its actually quite easy ifyou know the foundation stuff. BASICALLY if your track is in key of C maj, and youre using the note G as your “root” note. then this would mean youre using the G mixolydian mode. as the fifth degree of any major scale is the mixolydian and since youre in C maj and G is five notes away it makes it the G mixolydian.
if you were in C maj and using mainly D as a root, then youd be using the D dorian mode as the dorian mode root note is the 2nd degree of any major scale. since youre using D as the root, and D is the second note away from C… then its D dorian… get it?
if you was in the key of Amaj then itd be E mixolydian (E is five away from A) and B Dorian (B is the 2nd note in the A scale…) respectively. 
now i learnt all this stuff years ago when i was pretty obsessed with learning music theory. id stay up for hours and hours just reading music theory books and reading sheet music of popular artists trying to work out how they wrote this or that hit record.
to be honest i think i make better music now, after i consciencely decided to try and forget this theory stuff cos it just gets in the way… you end up always trying to write whats CORRECT instead of what sounds good. 
EDITl: sorry, i shoulda explained why they use modes… each mode gives over a different “feel”.