what’s the value of those courses if on top of my Ableton and this site’s subscription I have to purchase a shit ton of plugins?!
Hi there @lapuafox
IMO that’s not the way you have to see things in that regard. All the courses on S.A ( and particularly the “How To Make” ones, aim at showing you how tutors create their tracks, design their sounds, put the arrangement together, mix/master…etc.
So it’s more about learning about the techniques, workflow & tricks that are shown in those tutorials.
While every & each tutors would have their own preferences when it comes to plugins & DAW, you can always adapt the lessons and use either stock plugins or find alternative free ones.
Getting to see how a track was made from scratch from established producers as if you were sitting in the studio with them is the real benefit of S.A tutorials, and adapting that to your own gears & tools is a very effective way to learn IMHO
not really.
I am paying my subscription in order to watch a course on Ableton for beginners, ‘How To’ to make something as a follow-along, a beginner like me is not able to find another route or a different approach as we have no idea how to do the basics which makes me question the benefits of such a subscription (canceled already).
for you it might be useful but for me it is not an Academy it is supposed to be but a subproduct, a promo tool to push the VST down the marketing channel while pretending to be a school.
I have made a mistake, it is not about money but more about giving a value for a price which they definitely don’t deliver
Well, that’s your opinion and I can not change it but the advantage of the subscription is to learn at your own pace and in many different areas and at different levels. There’s plenty of beginners courses on Ableton’s Live to start with, just dealing with the DAW itself & it’s stock plugins.
We all have been there once, don’t forget It’s quite confusing to know what to learn and where to grab the knowledge that you really need when you start, and again, that’s why I think that S.A is a real academy in the opposite, because of the diversity of the tutorials & their levels. And just about pricing & value, check other subscriptions or pricing for individual tutorials by other sites and IMHO, S.A is one of the most competitive !
You have to take advantage of the search features on the tutorial page, when starting it’s really important not to overwhelm yourself with too much advanced techniques.
It’s a long and never ending learning curve when it comes to music production, it really is and we all know how frustrating & cumbersome it can be. Give you time, learn your DAW & the “inside the box” method before watching more complex courses involving higher end plugins & tools.
Just as an example here are some courses to learn more about Live when starting, and the last one is a very recent one showing you a full “Filtered House” genre track only using Live 10 inside the box ( except for ANA 2 & KICK 2 )
But OK, not trying to convince you to keep your subscription active here, I’m just moderating & trying to help users, and the folks at S.A won’t blame you either, they are cool guys !
Hope that could help & have a nice weekend
Cheers !
I never really see here people talking about what makes a specific genre… well, let’s say it is very rare. It would be nice to have that.
Could be something interesting yes, I think it’s also valuable to have some “Electronic Music Culture” next to learn how to produce. Some tutors provide good & interesting insights in their courses but it can’t be exhaustive enough for sure ( no time for that in a full “How To Make” course ).
Now the problem with that is the many sub-genres that have totally gone crazy ( in terms of number of them ) so that should be something sticking to roots & main genres only, therefore not pleasing everyone maybe.
Might be something to ask & post in the Tutorial Requests category, S.A staff could then see if it’s creating interest.
So please feel free to create a new topic in the above mentioned category, lately the posts here went a bit out off topic from this thread which is dedicated to Christian Vance Melodic Techno Tutorial, so it would be good to keep it that way IMO.
Thank you guys
Great work!
This producer has a really cool workflow! song sounds great
Very helpful, a lot of eye opening new things!
Nice! Would be great to know where i can get the step sequencer rack
Hey there @anatolrohe
The Vravnik SEQ Rack-1 is a custom sequencer rack made by Christian himself I believe.
It’s included in the Ableton Project file that you can download from the tutorial’s resource page, you can open the Live project and just save this rack.
Now to learn more & understand all about this, it was also part of the Tech Tips Volume 29, another course from Christian Vance. Everything explained about this sequencer rack in the 2 first videos :
Hey Stéphane. Thank you for the response and added resources!
Just got into Sonic Academy and quite impressed with the community.
You’re welcome
If you’re on FB, you can join the S.A discussion group here, it’s another place to exchange with the community.
Don’t forget to answer the 2 questions about DAW & fav music when requesting to join the group.
Great course enjoyed it. Thanks.
sound waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low.
I think the song isn’t good