I gotta resurrect this thread (I know there are several requesting this, but I picked this one cause it was the longest).
A Skrillex tutorial would be the bomb man. If we could get that it would be amazing. Just use ableton this time because Cubase was so glitchy for Bryan. 
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!
This is a good start
[quote]Jon_fisher (03/01/2011)[hr]This is a good start
(Sound to Sample vid)[/quote]
Yeh man, I went through that yesterday. Some good stuff in there for sure. I havenāt seen anyone match his bass for depth yet though, so itād be nice to see Phil give it a go.
However, that one sound isnāt the only part of Skrillexās music Iād like to see explained. All the other accompanying sounds that go with his bass would sweet to see broken down. For example in Skatta (2:30-3:05) or the harsher tones scattered throughout Kill Everybody (Bare Noize Remix) at 0:55, 1:02 & 2:10.
Another thing Iād like to learn is how he did the vocals for With your Friends (Original Mix) beginning at 5:49. Are they just cut up or did he do it all in an auto tune like plugin etc. Also, how did he get the youās to sound so bell like (example 5:56-5:58). These arenāt something I would do with a whole song like he did but theyād be cool spot effects (like in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites at 0:27).
Granted some of this stuff probably wouldnāt need more than a single Tech Tip or so and maybe some of itās simple and Iām a putz for not getting it but I think itād be good to cover because I think Dubstep is going to be headed in this direction in America (or so I hear) because a lot of the hard rock kids more associate with it so itās bringing in new fans.
nobody in sonic academy will be able to help you with this. i garentee. this type of production takes hours of messing around resampling/using massive etc. only a handful of people can really do it well, in comparison to 8th note kick sidechainingā¦ this is a whole other level. it requires using massive then resampling it then each time u resample it downsample it slightly, you add different effects such as chorus each time or formant filters. but the best bit of adivice i can give u is dont waste hour reading crap online get in the studio! start messing around youl start making some original sounding stuff pretty soon! 
if anyone needs any help pm me or ask here
ive dedicated the past 2 weeks to just learning this technique and it is very hard! but so much fun when u make sounds like transformers fartingā¦ maybe soon il make them fight instead 
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[quote]krisroberts (04/01/2011)[hr]nobody in sonic academy will be able to help you with this. i garentee. this type of production takes hours of messing around resampling/using massive etc. only a handful of people can really do it well, in comparison to 8th note kick sidechainingā¦ this is a whole other level. it requires using massive then resampling it then each time u resample it downsample it slightly, you add different effects such as chorus each time or formant filters. but the best bit of adivice i can give u is dont waste hour reading crap online get in the studio! start messing around youl start making some original sounding stuff pretty soon!
if anyone needs any help pm me or ask here
ive dedicated the past 2 weeks to just learning this technique and it is very hard! but so much fun when u make sounds like transformers fartingā¦ maybe soon il make them fight instead
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Do you have any clips of your recreation of it?
If you donāt think they could do a tutorial perhaps you could do it for them? :hehe: They are looking to start a user generated content area I believeā¦
Iām doing some work in what little studio I have but not on that particular sound. Thatās one of those sounds you canāt just intuitively figure out, a little bit of guidance is necessary I believe (though it sounds like I need to invest money I donāt have in Massive now if I want it, haha).
there are a ton of youtube videos including a techtip here on SA that covers the technique of re-sampling to create unique basslinesā¦
Check out Tech Tip 6 (Tutorials 59 - 62)
as for getting the exact sound of Skrillexā¦ good luck. HAHA!!
i will try and make some sort of tutorial when i can. not sure if it will be video but maybe a step by step guide. im no pro at this but i would be happy to help people with it. for now thoā¦ bed
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[quote]krisroberts (05/01/2011)[hr]i will try and make some sort of tutorial when i can. not sure if it will be video but maybe a step by step guide. im no pro at this but i would be happy to help people with it. for now thoā¦ bed
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Word, sounds good.
Iāve already checked out the Bass Resampling Tech Tips a few times during my subscription, but what about the other sounds I mentioned. Any ideas? Donāt really care to emulate his music but the techniques could definitely be used to accent a song.
ā¦Besides, atleast Iām not whining about Trance. Oh! :w00t:
[quote]jwalley08 (04/01/2011)[hr][quote]Jon_fisher (03/01/2011)[hr]This is a good start
(Sound to Sample vid)[/quote]
Yeh man, I went through that yesterday. Some good stuff in there for sure. I havenāt seen anyone match his bass for depth yet though, so itād be nice to see Phil give it a go.
However, that one sound isnāt the only part of Skrillexās music Iād like to see explained. All the other accompanying sounds that go with his bass would sweet to see broken down. For example in Skatta (2:30-3:05) or the harsher tones scattered throughout Kill Everybody (Bare Noize Remix) at 0:55, 1:02 & 2:10.
Another thing Iād like to learn is how he did the vocals for With your Friends (Original Mix) beginning at 5:49. Are they just cut up or did he do it all in an auto tune like plugin etc. Also, how did he get the youās to sound so bell like (example 5:56-5:58). These arenāt something I would do with a whole song like he did but theyād be cool spot effects (like in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites at 0:27).
Granted some of this stuff probably wouldnāt need more than a single Tech Tip or so and maybe some of itās simple and Iām a putz for not getting it but I think itād be good to cover because I think Dubstep is going to be headed in this direction in America (or so I hear) because a lot of the hard rock kids more associate with it so itās bringing in new fans.
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The basslines are done through resampling as was stated above. the basslines you just kinda have to play with. to get the DEPTH that you want from a bassline like skrillex requires you to actually have 3 bass lines. low, mid & high. eq accordingly.
With you friends is a great song. I love this track. He is using Melodyne for the vocals in with you friends. it is a plugin for vocals. it works great. good stuff.
[quote]dubVision (05/01/2011)[hr]
With you friends is a great song. I love this track. He is using Melodyne for the vocals in with you friends. it is a plugin for vocals. it works great. good stuff.[/quote]
Didnāt put this in your new thread because it wasnāt really relevant and figured Iād end the topic here. Iām not familiar with Melodyne but it seems really cool. Would you say this is also Melodyne used in a more subtle way to make the femaleās voice flutter? (Mostly at 1:29 but they do a lot of vocal effects during the verses too). It sounds like some odd reverb thing maybe thru the plugin.
[quote]jwalley08 (07/01/2011)[hr][quote]dubVision (05/01/2011)[hr]
With you friends is a great song. I love this track. He is using Melodyne for the vocals in with you friends. it is a plugin for vocals. it works great. good stuff.[/quote]
Didnāt put this in your new thread because it wasnāt really relevant and figured Iād end the topic here. Iām not familiar with Melodyne but it seems really cool. Would you say this is also Melodyne used in a more subtle way to make the femaleās voice flutter? (Mostly at 1:29 but they do a lot of vocal effects during the verses too). It sounds like some odd reverb thing maybe thru the plugin.
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when her voices does that repeat at 1:29 there is a couple things going on.
you could do that with melodyne or you could also do it with a simpler or sampler.
Iām not really that great with melodyne so I canāt be much help with it. but hopefully that is something we can get going in the other thread that I started. a melodyne tutorial would be awesome for ALL genres of music. vocals are also on high request here at Sonic Academy. so I know we would get some more support for this.
if you were working with audio the easiest thing to do would be to crop the audio file in ableton to be just the WORD that you wanted like āMEā or āYOUā or whateverā¦ then once you have this cropped you could throw that into a simpler or sampler. Using the cropped vocal as the sound for the simpler you could draw in the notes that you wanted and use a different length (make a half bar, 1 bar, 2 bar or 4 bar loop). At this point you could also add different Effects to the vocal that are not on the main vocal playing along side this āoneshotā.
or you could just crop the audio and use melodyne to get the pitch & sound you want. then layout the audio files in 16th note patterns or something like that to get the sound right.
you know what is hillarious?
the first time that I search for melodyne tutorial on youtubeā¦ the first video result?
Sonic Academy Tech Tip #7
How I missed this is beyond me, but how cool is thisā¦
Check out the video here:
http://www.sonicacademy.com/Producer/Course//Tech_Tips_Volume_1.cid2097
Haha, I actually watched that this morning. Good to know. :hehe:
I see what youāre talking about up there. It sounds like a great plugin but for $350 I might have to put it in the wishlist category.
I actually was planning on starting a vocal request thread this weekend (prolly work on it tomorrow if one doesnāt pop up before then). I was gonna get a bunch of YouTube videos together and all. Iāll probably work on it tomorrow. Really after watching the tutorials you can do just about anything in music production with a fair degree of competence except vocals. Theyāre barely brushed over at best. Iām not complaining about Sonic Academy, just complaining about the lack of vocal work. For me what separates the song that consumes me for a week from the one that consumes me for a month is good vocals.
Just found this for you folks - hope it helps
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