[quote]djelzo (18/08/2010)[hr]I really didnt think someting like this would cause such a stir…its 4 quid for god sake, and its not like you are forced to enter the competition. So many people nowadays ecpect everything for free…get a grip!!;)[/quote]
I wonder if they offer a refund if they sign your remix?
Beatport are the Tesco of Music.
Asda wish! 
:D
[quote]djelzo (18/08/2010)[hr]I really didnt think someting like this would cause such a stir…its 4 quid for god sake, and its not like you are forced to enter the competition. So many people nowadays ecpect everything for free…get a grip!!;)[/quote]
Your right Man. its no big deal really. Dont sign up if you dont want 
Just, its a bit mean charging 4 whatever for something that costs way less.
Just to be awkward here… If you merged all the audio together into one linear file, would it amount to the original length of the track?
Its a bit of a scam.
my issue isnt the amount theyre charging,its the fact that they charge you to do a remix for them and maybe youve noticed by now that 99 percent of the songs in these remix comps are crap.
LOL
Imagine all the ones that dont even make it in!
I did something for a Florian Meindl rmx thing a while back… but ended up really liking what I’d done. I’d hardly used his parts & actually only had very fx’d snippet of some strings… which I’d turned into a stab.
Went away with my own idea - changed it… thought it was sh!t & then smashed up the house.
It was only then I remembered it was a free RMX competition. Oh NO!
Seriously though… wonder if they get entries & go - Here’s your 4 quid back… we aint infecting our site with that rubbish? :hehe:
well that is how beatport makes Money with their Customers. one of the reasons that Remix Contest became popular is because is another way to promote the artist.
Beatport is selling the samples to promote that everyone can do a remix .
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if people would understand that they need to properly produce first before remixing. Beatport wouldn’t sell anymore remixes parts
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w.O.r.d
the value of things you purchase is not in what you pay for them but in what YOU get out of them…in other words what value it can bring to you…
I would pay for stems for a tune I really like but all I’m saying is I would not pay to enter a remix comp.
[quote]gofunk (18/08/2010)[hr]I would pay for stems for a tune I really like but all I’m saying is I would not pay to enter a remix comp.[/quote]
Yeah pretty much exactly the same to how I feel, except on top of that I feel that £4 is a lot of money for stems when you can buy the whole track for a third of the price. It’s like buying a car for £5k but then being told if you just want the wheel and the door it will cost you £15k
[quote]seanl (18/08/2010)[hr]the value of things you purchase is not in what you pay for them but in what YOU get out of them…in other words what value it can bring to you…
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I think really it all boils down to this
That’s all very well and good, however lets not detach from the topic here. It’s about them doing a remix competition and if you want to enter, you have to pay for the parts.
If they want to just sell parts, then just sell parts. But they’re not, they’re doing a remix competiton.
As far as I was aware most competitons you don’t pay for, apart from perhaps the cost of a postcard and a stamp in some cases.
Actually I do agree with you roben that it is a ripoff to pay to enter a competition and escepcially one that if your an unknown have very little chance of winning - but then again Beatport is a buisness and are only trying to diversify its sales like anyone else - not fair but an unfortunate way of life
[quote]slender (18/08/2010)[hr]Actually I do agree with you roben that it is a ripoff to pay to enter a competition and escepcially one that if your an unknown have very little chance of winning - but then again Beatport is a buisness and are only trying to diversify its sales like anyone else - not fair but an unfortunate way of life
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Well why not sell parts to all tracks anyways regardless of remix competitions.
Personally i think it’s just taking advantage of producers and their dreams, offering them a prize they have very little chance of winning, even with a top class remix but saying they have to PAY for the hours of work and promotion / spamming for votes they’ll be putting into it.
If it comes down to paying for dreams i’d much rather just pay £1 for a lottery ticket and at least that way the prize is bigger, the cost is cheaper, i dont have to put in hours of work and i’ve probably just as much chance of winning.
Anyways I know a lot of you may not agree, however it’s not the ‘paying for parts’ bit i have a problem with, i have a problem with paying to enter a competition and the blatent taking advantage of producers. Sure there is that ‘chance of winning’, but it’s a comp, competitions are mostly supposed to be free to enter, that’s the point.
Anyways I’m very anti remix competition anyways haha
Also no label in the world approaches you to do a remix for them but then charges you for the parts, that’s ridiculas.
i saw that before on one of their remix comps
so i didnt enter
they should let you buy the parts individually
anyway - f**k beatport
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Yes remix competitions are just another revenue stream/promotional device.
It’s obvious…but unfair?
I don’t think so…I bet 20 years ago producers would kill to get number of opportunities we get now.
Chance to put your name next to a big artists’s for less then most spent on coffee each day…unfair? Only if you fail to see the promotional value in that.
[quote]roben (17/08/2010)[hr][quote]howiegroove (17/08/2010)[hr][quote]gofunk (17/08/2010)[hr][quote]bobby lupo (17/08/2010)[hr][quote]howiegroove (17/08/2010)[hr] if there was a song that I really liked, I would pay $4 for the stems.
But on the other token, I would never pay to do a remix for a competition. They can blow me.[/quote]
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I wouldn’t pay… thats just pure cheek imo[/quote]
So you’re telling me that if you have a song that you really like, and they are selling the stems, you wouldn’t buy it??? For $4 even??? As a producer, I think that would be $4 well spent, IMO.[/quote]
I personally wouldn’t, but then that’s just me.
I get GIGs worth of samples with a £6 music magazine, doesn’t make financial sense paying £4 for a couple of parts that - for the most part - I can’t use in a release worthy track unless i get licensing clearance from the label.[/quote]
you may wanna read the small print on those samples that come “FREE” with your mag. many of them come from PrimeSounds and SoundtoSample or SampleMagic and are only licensed on demo others are from Groove Criminals and can be used on commercial releases, but don’t think just because they are free on a mag or with a book means you can use them on a full release.
on the flip i’ve never heard of a label asking for prove of clearance on a bassline or lead, drums, fx maybe on a vocal but not much else.
half the sample packs out there have loops ripped from other productions and although the sample company have given you “permission” to use the sample doesn’t mean its ever been cleared by the original artist.
[quote]roben (18/08/2010)[hr]
However surely if a track is £1.50, how can a label warrent £4 for parts?[/quote]
Easy!!!
A regular track is entertainment.
Stems are education.
Do you pay more for a ticket to the movie theater or a class at your community college?
We should all enter for the laugh with the stems simply reversed.
[quote]ICN (18/08/2010)[hr]We should all enter for the laugh with the stems simply reversed.[/quote]
or arrange the stems to make the original track again