I usually put a Utility on my kicks and mono them up but i felt like i wasnt getting the width that i hear on commercial stuff so just for****s n giggles i tried something and it turned out really nicely. I dont know if this is a common technique or something you already know but its really simple and can be done for any style of music really including techno…
Basically get your kicks and do all the normal stuff like EQ/Compression blah blah and set it to 0,0% on your utility so its mono. Then all you need to do is duplicate it and pan one all the way to the left and one all the way to the right. Also group them so you have a volume fader for both because for this to work both tracks must be completely identical including the volume fader positions.
I know this sounds simple but trust me on this, it will instantly widen your mix, makes your kicks sound better and thicker and is totaly different than just mono ing up your one kick channel with a utility. Try it out and let me know what you think, and sorry if this is something that everyone already does
No mate because your actually just making it true mono i think. It may appear to be louder but this is the trick i mentioned, doing my little thing you actually make your mixes wider and you enhance your kicks by making them sound wider, thicker and better overall… If you grouped them up you should notice that there should be no real volume changes you just have to pan them all the way to the left and right.
Just try it out, you will notice the master doesnt go up. Also if you want some ‘pro’ people telling you the same watch the in the studio with Breeze and Styles. Its on google video.
[quote]jjdejong0 (09/03/2011)[hr]Just try it out, you will notice the master doesnt go up. Also if you want some ‘pro’ people telling you the same watch the in the studio with Breeze and Styles. Its on google video.[/quote]
[quote]Mussi81 (09/03/2011)[hr][quote]jjdejong0 (09/03/2011)[hr]Just try it out, you will notice the master doesnt go up. Also if you want some ‘pro’ people telling you the same watch the in the studio with Breeze and Styles. Its on google video.[/quote]
[quote]Roben (09/03/2011)[hr][quote]Mussi81 (09/03/2011)[hr][quote]jjdejong0 (09/03/2011)[hr]Just try it out, you will notice the master doesnt go up. Also if you want some ‘pro’ people telling you the same watch the in the studio with Breeze and Styles. Its on google video.[/quote]
trick ive found to help kicks is a bit of transient shaping and process it seperatly from all the other drums… also my kick and snare tend to be the loudest thing in the mix. Its all preference i guess. And i think what you suggested is probably right but because you duplicate the kick and pan it without reducing the volume of the panned kicks it does just add volume.
[quote]krisroberts (09/03/2011)[hr]trick ive found to help kicks is a bit of transient shaping and process it seperatly from all the other drums… also my kick and snare tend to be the loudest thing in the mix. Its all preference i guess. [/quote]
Yeah i think this is key. I have been doing the same thing for a while now.
In making any kinda house you want the kick & snares to be the loudest in the mix.
So I use 2 separate instances of impulse for my kick & snares… for total control over both.
and then a drum rack for everything else. It makes it easy to organize!
the kick’s not wide in the stereo field man it’s just loud. that’s why when you listen to a song with headphones on the kick seems to be in the middle of your head and not panned to the sides around you like hats and stuff.
and yeah I’m with Roben on this one, I’ve stopped using a lot of processing on my kicks when the sample I’m using is good. and if it’s not I get rid of it.
just have it loud enough up in the mix, use good samples and you’re good.
yeah there’s that too, I know you’re supposed to mono an entire track when you’re done with it because lots of club soundsystems only play in mono. and parts tends to cancel each other out in mono when they sound good in stereo, so this panned kick might sound a bit weird in mono, I dunno.
I could just be talking crap so correct me if I’m wrong.
