Audio to Midi

I have tried searching the forums and have found nothing, so please accept my apologies if this has been asked and answered already :wink: Is there a way to convert an audio track(like a clip of a guitar solo, etc) to midi notes in Ableton without downloading a plug in or anything?

I dont think that its possible with Ableton Mate… I vaguely remember seeing a thread about it before - but could be wrong.

Think Jon Fisher confirmed it?

Maybe someone else can let you know for sure.

Splice to midi maybe

It was me, and no there is no way to do it in Live. However, you can do it in Logic. Its in the same menu as Midi to Score. However, if you want to know the timing, you can do that in Live. Basically, what you do is extract the groove of an audio track and it creates midi file for you! Then you can rearrange the notes.

Melodyne let’s you move audio about like midi… Think you can output a midi file of the notes.

[quote]robo (02/12/2010)[hr]I have tried searching the forums and have found nothing, so please accept my apologies if this has been asked and answered already :wink: [/quote]



This is the kind of newbie I like! Welcome to the boards!



+1 for Melodyne comment. Also Waves does a similar tool i forget the name of (in case you have the waves bundle)

[quote]phil johnston (03/12/2010)[hr]Melodyne let’s you move audio about like midi… Think you can output a midi file of the notes.[/quote]



You can, although I’ve found Melodyne impressive, but time consuming to work with. It doesn’t just spring the audio out into lovely different sounds, they are still often mixed with other bits of audio - if there are more than one part playing at the same time.



It might work ok on a clean guitar part though - if you have the sample I can give it a try.

Melodyne will let you extract the midi from polyphonic material which i guess in an ideal world is what your after as you will get the chords as well as where the note start. 

If you just want to get the where the notes start you can insert transient markers in your audio clip and then you can extract the groove.  You will then have your midi for where the notes start.  You will just have to have a bit of trial and error constructing the chords from there.  If you make a copy of your audio clip and cut where the transient markers are you can then use the spectrum to analise each chord to try and give you an indication of what frequency the tonic is, which may make it a bit easier working out the chords 

Yeah I posted about this nearly 2 year ago or something so not surprised you didn’t find it, it’s no worries though!

I was given a few links for audio to midi plug in’s but the way they work is really weird. They split things up into numerous midi channels, even if it’s just a solo audio you’re trying to midi. I just didn’t like them.


It’s a bit of a holy grail thing really.



Something that can extract harmonics effectively and create polyphonic/multi note midi reliably would be gold.

couldn’t you just throw an audio sample into simpler or sampler as well?



obviously this wouldnt work well for an entire SONG, but if you just had little slices you could do this.

you guys are awesome, thanks for the warm welcome and information! :smiley: to howie’s post about logic: this is precisely what i am trying to do in live. if they don’t have that feature, they should!

at work now but will definitely look into some of these options when i get home and let you know how it’s coming. thanks for all the feedback :slight_smile:

What you’re looking for is pretty hard to come by, as the technology isn’t quite there yet.



The closest thing I’ve been able to find is Widi Pro 4.0.







I’ve got it and it’s far from perfect but it can help get you going in the right direction, provided you can get the settings right. It’s pretty tricky to try and filter out all the background sounds to get what you’re looking for, which I can only presume would be things like chord structures, melodies, and basslines from tracks for remixing purposes.



I think they’ve got a demo VST you can try but even that is kind of sketchy to use.



If you have successful results, I’d be interested in hearing them.

[quote]iirybackii (03/12/2010)[hr]What you’re looking for is pretty hard to come by, as the technology isn’t quite there yet.

The closest thing I’ve been able to find is Widi Pro 4.0.



I’ve got it and it’s far from perfect but it can help get you going in the right direction, provided you can get the settings right. It’s pretty tricky to try and filter out all the background sounds to get what you’re looking for, which I can only presume would be things like chord structures, melodies, and basslines from tracks for remixing purposes.

I think they’ve got a demo VST you can try but even that is kind of sketchy to use.

If you have successful results, I’d be interested in hearing them.[/quote]

have looked into that but it seems like a b**** and a half to get the settings just right. maybe one day, right?:cool:

ok now on to the real stuffs: how do i makez a kickz?? lolzzzguysjkguysjk :stuck_out_tongue:

What about this thing? Looks a bit clunky… but wonder if it works?

Midifier [url]http://www.knzaudio.com/index.php[/url]

Even the Logic one is a bit hit & miss. You can adjust the sensitivity so much on the transients… but the more complicated it is, or noisy… the more fkd the result is gonna be.

Still… Its interesting.