Big lead sound

Hey i was just wondering if you could give me some tips to give that massive lead sounding effect, i mean just stacking 100 super saw sounds on each other with some low and some high isnt enough i just feel like my leads always sound a bit dull and bassy compared to the pro’s and simply boosting the top end with eq isnt really enough…



Here are some examples…




Lead is right at the start, they just seem to sound so much fuller and richer... I tried just using the dutch house presets and trance presets in anna but it just feels like theres something missing... adding a big reverb and delay also isnt really helping its just making it sound muddier..

All help appreciated.

Have you seen this thread?