yo
when you guys want to get the bottom end sorted out properly do you ever rent a local studio with the big monitors? or just do the best u can at home and send it away to get mastered…?
thanks
bottom end monitoring-ask ICN he’s an expert on the subject 
i agree but i want a unisex opinion on the matter not just research on the male bottom end
There are a few things you can do. The first thing and most simple is to crank it up brotha!! A bi of volume will help you out an enhance your bass perception. Second, get a proffesional track in a similair style that you are making. Listen and I mean really listen to how the low end sounds and feels through your monitors and in your room. If you have to throw it in ableton and pit in the multiband dynamics and listen to how it sounds. Use this reference and try to get it sounding as much as the reference as possible the only two things that may be different between your mix and whatever reference your using is that the reference will be louder. Throw on a limiter and listen and adjust. The next thing is stuff like spectral analysers these let you see your low end! The next thing is to make a few different mixdowns, master them burn em to cd and listen on a few different systems. Listen and make notes on the different mixes then go back and adjust then rinse and repeat. The better you are at using a reference track and getting your low end as similair as possible the less you will have to burn to cd and listen etc. Hope this helps!
[quote]jpgetty2win (11/09/2010)[hr]i agree but i want a unisex opinion on the matter not just research on the male bottom end[/quote]
LOL V.good! 
Roben could give you the Hermaphrodite slant if you can wait until he gets back from his latest Op in Ibiza?
I wouldnt worry so much about big monitors. I would focus more on A/B between your monitors that you have and a good set of headphones.
this is going to sound weird but in addition to howies advice,and someone elses about a/bing against another song, try listening to your mix standing/kneeling whatever at different angles and distances within your room.started doing this before my room was fully treated and still do it.like i said sounds weird but it works.
Lol the above post brings me to a weird little audio secret for checking your panning settings and your overall space in a mix. Play your track and stand in the doorway of your studio room. It sounds crazy but it drastically increases your perception of panning and width in a mix. It sounds silly but it works, give it a try!
[quote]jjdejong0 (13/09/2010)[hr]Lol the above post brings me to a weird little audio secret for checking your panning settings and your overall space in a mix. Play your track and stand in the doorway of your studio room. It sounds crazy but it drastically increases your perception of panning and width in a mix. It sounds silly but it works, give it a try![/quote]
definitely.this reminded me of when i first started out and had my bedroom doubling as my studio.my closet was maybe 6-8 feet away from my setup and i would close it most of the way,turn off my sub, and listen to the mix from in there(a/bing against a mix done in a proper studio)to find problems in the lower freqs.it worked well for me for quite a while,till i finally got a place with more rooms/space.
headphones
i get better mixdowns on my sony dj headphones than i do on my ky krk6’s (partly because my room isnt treated)
The above post whilst it can work has to be taken with a pinch of salt. Even in a badly treated room your stereo perception will always be better on monitors. Also your perception of bass because bass is ‘felt’ and heard, this is alot harder on a pair of headphones no matter how high quality they are. I know alot of producers rave on saying laidback luke does all his mixing and mastering through headphones, whilst this is true all his channels are mono or get converted to mono, and trust me he will definately A/B on a pair of monitors just for the stereo field.
[quote]bobby lupo (13/09/2010)[hr]this is going to sound weird but in addition to howies advice,and someone elses about a/bing against another song, try listening to your mix standing/kneeling whatever at different angles and distances within your room.started doing this before my room was fully treated and still do it.like i said sounds weird but it works.[/quote]
i had to lol when i read this, it reminded me of something a friend of mine said when i asked him how he gets so much punch in his final mixes. He told me “i don’t really know to be fair mate, once i have the kick and bass working i usually go for a crap and if the track sounds good while i’m in the crapper i know it will sound great in the club”
its true its just a depth perception thing and doing this just greatly enhances your perception of panning and space in your mix. Its crazy and would probably require some sort of sound scientist to fully explain.