Breaking down a song?

Okay, I just recently got turned on to mixing on Ableton. I was wondering how I can take a song and cut out a sound that I like, to latter put in a mix and or putting it on my midi key board to make a new sound entirely.

It would be nice to get a step by step to breaking down a song, so I can get a sound I want with out hearing any other sounds.(If this makes any sense at all)



Any help would be greatly appreciated.:smiley:

[quote]MarkeyGMark (16/10/2010)[hr]Okay, I just recently got turned on to mixing on Ableton. I was wondering how I can take a song and cut out a sound that I like, to latter put in a mix and or putting it on my midi key board to make a new sound entirely.
It would be nice to get a step by step to breaking down a song, so I can get a sound I want with out hearing any other sounds.(If this makes any sense at all)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.:D[/quote]

The easiest way would be to post the part of the song/sound you want then im sure we could let you know how to get that sound .:slight_smile:

Okay, I will work on getting the sound cut out of the song,or at least a portion of the song on here.

What is the quickest way to cut up a song, haha?

Seriously though that’s a real question.

Okay what I really want to know is how to break down a song and make a sample of every part? I figure if I learn that, I can get any sound I need. Any tips?

Also, what site can I upload my music, to show my progress on this forum?

Sorry I don’t mean to sound like I know very little, I am still learning.

Soundcloud to upload your progress - you can start off with a free account



If I understand you right it would be very hard to sample each sound in a song due to overlapping - best thing to do would be load a song you like into your DAW and then analyse the track

OK Digital Audio Work Station? What one would I need to do the trick?

I should ask, can I do this all in ableton or do I need an outside source?

ableton is fine



here is an anlayse i did earlier



http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2JOXLQBU

Also, when people remix other artists, they don’t have to tear a song apart to get the roots. They are simply given the roots, which means each part. That way you have the solid separated parts as they would have been recorded in a studio. This way there is no overlap. As stated earlier, it’s probably easier to just recreate the sound you want on a synth. If it’s the actual audio sample you’re after though, you might want to do a little research as filtering and manipulating audio to get rid of the parts you don’t want is a pretty advanced science… Just my 2 :cool:

Whats the step to analyzing a song in ableton; splitting up a mp3 into different sound samples?

[quote]MarkeyGMark (01/11/2010)[hr]Whats the step to analyzing a song in ableton; splitting up a mp3 into different sound samples?[/quote]



Slice to midi.



I might be wrong, but is the OP asking about how to get a song and divide it into its component parts?



Like, get a track and split it into Drums, bassline, Vocals etc. Reading back it might be what they are after. If that is the case it’s not really as easy as that.



There are things like Melodyne if you have the money, or you could disect it with EQing and Filtering, but that’s going to be a lot of work, and probably not yeild the results you are after.

Thanks for the help… Melodyne is a great program just bought it last night considering it will be useful for just about everything I do for my music, but it still does not break up a song well enough to get clear samples, unless I am using the plug in wrong.

Do you have to go to the record company to get the clear samples? haha As for the midi slice… yah that does not get the sounds that I would want for my music. That method does work for a drum loop… which is great by the way… but not what I am looking for.

Propellerhead’s “recycle” plugin is great for chopping samples of a track…I saw Tocadisco using it in one of the future music vid…



Also in ableton you can slice up the parts you need & then can load it in sampler by simply dragging the sliced part on to the sampler…






[quote]MarkeyGMark (03/11/2010)[hr]but not what I am looking for.
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I think what you want to do can’t be done. If you want to extract a complete baseline from track, for example, without being able to hear anything else it just won’t work. You can get close using eq, but you will be able to hear the other stuff. The reason is that when 2 or more sounds play the waves for those sounds are added together to make a new wave. The sound is the baseline and the drums and the hats etc

If you want a particular sound  you could ask for a tech tip in the Tutorial Requests forum here by posting a youtube link to the track and giving the time.

Also, other peoples tracks are great for inspiration but sometimes what is more important than the actual sound is the character of the sound like what frequency it is at, if it is distorted, how is long it plays, how it evolves etc. Then you can make a sound that has the same character but hasn’t been used before.

Oh yeah, one more thing. You can get hold of tracks that are broken into thier parts, called stems, usually for remix contests. There are lots of paid for and free ones. Beatport do lots of paid for.

Google remix contest or remix stems and see if anything is of interest.