This message is for Phil Johnston and anyone who wants to comment…
Just wondering if you could add videos (like you did for the trance tutorials) for how you actually made the sounds with the Minimoog in the Deadmau5 tutorial + the settings in Simpler?
I’ve just gone through it but I wouldn’t have a clue how to get the sounds you made using the square and sawtooth waves!
If you could help with this It would be much appreciated!!!
Cheers
Matt
+1 
good idea
+1 , don’t undersand why sonic academy don’t give the preset with the tutorial …
Believe it or not, I think it might actually be a preset in Sylenth. I think its called super saw. It sounds very similar. Try that out.
Oh yeah, dont forget to slap on a little delay.
+1
The idea is to learn how to create your own presets… 
custom baby! custom! It’s the only way to make sure it’s 100% yours! 
presets are good for getting an idea though, but I wouldn’t rely on them to make a track. I think that the majority of you will find that if you just tinker with it for a couple of days, it will come natural, and you’ll be looking at these sounds thinking to yourself. “How in the hell did I not figure this out!” The majority of the sounds are so simple it’s not even funny. It’s all in the processing and automations that give it that breath of life! The number one thing I would do when analyzing a sound would be to try to figure out what FX are on top of it prior to the actual sound created. As you all know, FX can drastically change the way anything sounds. Even the most simple of sounds! If you listen closely you will always be able to tell what elements are involved… Never take the easy way out in the beginning when your learning. It will only make things harder later on when you actually know something. I would recommend learning everything you can before even attempting to make a legit track. The key to producing is talent and inspiration, but if you don’t know how to use your kit, then all your going to ever be is inspired with no tunes!
Raymond
i agree with raymond:D
i’m a total beginner so more tutorials on synth programming would be great but i want to see how they do it from scratch so i can understand it not just be given a preset or a sample
i find the best way to learn is to copy other people but when i’m finally good enough to do a track of my own i want it to be 100% my own work
the mark knight tutorial was a massive help and as i followed the tutorial i saved my own presets everytime i got a cool sound and then i can go back to them and play around with them later it still bamboozles me though lol…:w00t:
Guys,
Check out the book the dance music manual. It has a lot of information including how to program sounds. Also check out youtube. There’s a guy named Timofey who has good Ableton tutorials. One of them specifically shows how to program operator in Ableton to make the sound that was used in the song Bodyrocks that was a big hit a few years ago. After watching and doing a little programming myself I was then able to create my own presets and instruments in Ableton. It is a lot more fulfilling than using a factory preset. Also check out Nicks tutorials. He has a 4 hour long operator video. i haven’t seen it yet but I’m sure make you more proficient at programming. For the youtube vids search making electron with ableton. the programming one should be in the related vids. hope this helps someone.
Tom
I may have missed it but where is this mark knight tutorial. I’ve heard how it has helped other people and can not find it. Thanks in advance.
I think it’s called the tech house tutorial now. HTSL Tech House, with Synthesis 101 or something to that effect…
Raymond
if you go to the homepage then scroll through the htsl vids in the middle of the page and its on there htsl no 4 tech house as made popular by mark knight hope this helps…
i’ve watched timofeys vids but the version of operator he uses is different to the one i bought a few weeks ago my pitch envelope screen is not the same which makes it (and other tutorials i’ve found) quite hard to follow as i dont have a clue lol
i bought operator as everyone said its the simplist and easiest to master but i’ve since got sylenth so i could follow the s/a tutorials and i’ve found it a lot easier to get to grips with:)
i followed the links on youtube to nicks tutorials but you have to pay so i did not bother as i’m skint at the mo
Chris,
i have live 8 and my sound is pretty close to the vids. If i recall correctly the pitch envelope isn’t turned on. the filter envelope,time and glide functions are what make that sound.
yeah your right i’ve just watched the vid again i’ll have another crack at it in the morning…cheers:)
[quote]raymondsar (7/18/2009)[hr]The idea is to learn how to create your own presets… custom baby! custom! It’s the only way to make sure it’s 100% yours! presets are good for getting an idea though, but I wouldn’t rely on them to make a track. I think that the majority of you will find that if you just tinker with it for a couple of days, it will come natural, and you’ll be looking at these sounds thinking to yourself. “How in the hell did I not figure this out!” The majority of the sounds are so simple it’s not even funny. It’s all in the processing and automations that give it that breath of life! The number one thing I would do when analyzing a sound would be to try to figure out what FX are on top of it prior to the actual sound created. As you all know, FX can drastically change the way anything sounds. Even the most simple of sounds! If you listen closely you will always be able to tell what elements are involved… Never take the easy way out in the beginning when your learning. It will only make things harder later on when you actually know something. I would recommend learning everything you can before even attempting to make a legit track. The key to producing is talent and inspiration, but if you don’t know how to use your kit, then all your going to ever be is inspired with no tunes!
Raymond[/quote]
Its all in your perception. I do both. I use presets and make my own sounds. there is no shame at all in using presets at all. Check out the article in Future Music magazine where Fischerspooner talks about him never using hardware and all he does is use presets. Quite interesting.
Rob Papen is coming out with a synthesis DVD soon…that should be excellent for learning how to make your own sounds. I’m looking forward to that one!
I don’t use Operator much but I think its a great piece of kit. I’d like to learn to use it more but since I use Sylenth, Zebra2 and all the Papen synths so much I don’t usually get around to it.
It seems like most pro producers use a combo of presets and some of their own custom made sounds.