What would be the best way or mastered track to use as a guide playing at a flat 0 EQ setting through a hardware mixer, for setting my hardware mixer setting for sub bass, mid treble. br
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Then tweaking my hardware mixer settings to get a good sound balance in my room and then I can use them setting to help me mix my tracks better. br
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Also I’m using a few soft furnishings to stop the sound from bouncing around the room especially for the sub bass. br
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And I’m not using pro monitors yet, just a external sound card going into a hardware mixer to speakers and a sub bass speaker. br
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Or do you think this approach is not the right way of getting a DIY room sound setting, and if so any ideas.br
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My advice would be - get some decent monitors as a priority!br
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It’s no good having a decent sounding room if the sound coming out your monitors is rubbish!br
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And my approach has been to just try and learn the sound of my speakers in my current room, and all it’s flaws! I know my current room sounds terrible - but i have learnt to live with it by making allowances for how i now know it colours the sound.br
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It’s fine if you can afford to spend loads of money on things like bass traps and you are not renting so you can drill holes in the walls etc to install them - but if you are like me, i think the best approach is to get some decent monitors, and work hard to learn their specific sound in the specific room you are in.br
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It’s worth remembering that many great sounding tracks have been produced in terrible sounding rooms - it can be done! It’s a classic case of skill and experience being more important than throwing loads of money at fancy acoustic treatment!
[quote]davidmclean (21/06/2013)[hr]My advice would be - get some decent monitors as a priority!br
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It’s no good having a decent sounding room if the sound coming out your monitors is rubbish!br
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And my approach has been to just try and learn the sound of my speakers in my current room, and all it’s flaws! I know my current room sounds terrible - but i have learnt to live with it by making allowances for how i now know it colours the sound.br
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It’s fine if you can afford to spend loads of money on things like bass traps and you are not renting so you can drill holes in the walls etc to install them - but if you are like me, i think the best approach is to get some decent monitors, and work hard to learn their specific sound in the specific room you are in.br
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It’s worth remembering that many great sounding tracks have been produced in terrible sounding rooms - it can be done! It’s a classic case of skill and experience being more important than throwing loads of money at fancy acoustic treatment![/quote]br
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Some good tips info David,br
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At the moment i am using DJ monitors and a sub bass speaker and it sounds good but I want to get a balance sound between the DJ monitors and the Sub Bass in my room so when I mixed down I get a good sound thats not to bassy on other equipment. And I know that when I find the bad frequencies of my room I can EQ them out, but I need help finding them, With out having to use specialist equipment software to do it because of cost and know how.
Bass traps are really very inexpensive. to build… you can grab a bail of insulation and the wood from BQ to build 4 decent absorbers for like £40… then just grab speaker cloth from maplins… another £10br
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you can just hang them from one picture hook as they arent too heavy or just prop them up on something.
Phil - could you provide the required links to the materials that we would need to buy to create these house made bass traps please.br
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It looks like i’m going to be renting my current flat for quite a while yet, so i might as well try the bass trap thing that you mentioned if you only need to make a small picture hook hole in the wall.br
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Could use some help making sure i get the right stuff first time round though.br
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Thanks mate.br
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[quote]davidmclean (21/06/2013)[hr]Phil - could you provide the required links to the materials that we would need to buy to create these house made bass traps please.br
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It looks like i’m going to be renting my current flat for quite a while yet, so i might as well try the bass trap thing that you mentioned if you only need to make a small picture hook hole in the wall.br
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Could use some help making sure i get the right stuff first time round though.br
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Thanks mate.br
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Cool, will check it out, thanks!
Just been doing a bit of research looking at tuts and looking around the net and I tried a method I found to see if there was any sound problems with my room and this is what I did. (and the reason why I used this method is because I did not have a proper mic and lead for the test)br
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1 - Recorded a looped bar of pink noise made from ANA then turn the MIDI track into audio br
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2 - Recorded the pink noise loop back into live 9 using a cheap mic (I think) called Behringer Cardioid XM2000S and the mic was place at my work position.br
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3 - Download a free plug called Voxengo span and put it on the master and routed the 2 audio tacks into it and compared the wave forms and there was very little difference in sound waves. I was very surprise.br
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IF ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS METHOD AND KNOWS IT IS FLAWED METHOD PLEASE LET ME KNOW.br
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it is flawed becausebr
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A. you aren’t subtracting your mics freq curvebr
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B. You arent capturing any time information.br
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watch the room eq wizzard tutorials and the method i used is the best way.br
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a reference mic with an available curve and a full freq sweep to get all freqs on thir own with time information (i.e. room reverb response)br
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I will have to get one of those mics and learn all about this topicbr
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plus, please zzzzzzzzz make more in depth tuts about this topic and include EQing bad room frequencies
I would never recommend EQing a room… its best to try to sort it all out with acoustics.br
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there are some systems like http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/br
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or there is a KRK one.
[quote]phil johnston (23/06/2013)[hr]I would never recommend EQing a room… its best to try to sort it all out with acoustics.br
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there are some systems like http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/br
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or there is a KRK one.[/quote]br
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I watch a pro tuts and he did EQ the bad frequencies of the studio at the mix down stage but I was thinking of using an external hardware EQ or a sound card Mixer application with EQ setting to help correct the sound output to improve the sound. As well as bass traps etc etcbr
Eqing your room at mixdown stage sounds completely counter intuitive to me.br
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if you room has nodes at certain freqs they wont effect whats actually happening with your mixdown just what you are hearing.br
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a hardware EQ between computer and speakers is a better option but it should be set once and left. and is only really used for subtle room tuning not to get rid of problem freqs. The correct absorption or diffusion are the proper solutions.br
I think this topic is going to take a lot of time to master, but I think it will be worth it.br
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Also I think I will have a chat to some local people who build studios and pick their brains.
Ive done a ton of research as im building my own studio.br
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there is a lot of great info here www.johnlsayers.com
[quote]phil johnston (23/06/2013)[hr]Ive done a ton of research as im building my own studio.br
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there is a lot of great info here www.johnlsayers.com[/quote]br
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wow, that site looks good for info