If you’ve produced a release quality production but feel it just needs that ‘professional extra touch up’, do you think it’s a good idea to seek an engineer?
I was thinking of seeking someone to just look through a couple of projects i have and make it sound rounded and professional. I worry that i don’t get my ‘mix’ right and everything sitting right etc. Kinda like getitng someone to professionally master but rather than just whacking on plugs on a master bus, to actually get a bit deeper with my parts?
Is this even a done thing?
yeah you can do that!
i did it , to hear the difference and see where it takes my mixes.
For me dominik de leon → http://www.audio-senses.com
really good work and price!
greets
If you are talking about mixing down, then I would suggest doing it yourself dude. Of course it might sound like garbage the first few times, but it will get better. I remember you wrote a post about others hiring out people to make music for them. I personally feel this is similar (although not the same). You should do your own mixdowns. The only thing to send off to pay someone to do, is to master.
yeah i was also just speaking about mastering!
greets
hmm yeah i want to do that howie, but the problem at the moment i’m finding isn’t the quality of production, it’s that extra 20%, that something that makes it sound from what it is to something that sounds solid next to everything else released.
I worry about harming a good track by sending out in it’s current state, i feel it can be more, but not because of what i can put into it production wise but by the whole technical aspect.
I only got the thought because of watching this video with Joey Negro and he has his own engineer, i also have heard that Prok & Fitch use an engineer, a lot of local friends have said that since they’ve been using the engineer you can really hear the extra quality in the track, that sparkle.
I don’t even really know how to explain it man
I feel almost at a barrier, because I’ve learnt so much from Sonic Academy, but there is that advanced level i think i’m missing.
Ideally we need something shown on SA that takes one of the tutorial tracks and makes it into release ready.
Roben I really don’t have any gripes with going to an engineer. If I had the money & knew of any decent engineers I’m sure I would. I’m sure while your there you could learn alot about why your track mightn’t sound up to par with other released material. Then the next time you will know these techniques and be able to do it yourself.
You often see producers from beatport etc collaborating. Sometimes they will go to a studio together. This IMO is similar. They want to work with that person because they like elements of their tracks & when they come together they can have the best of both their ideas…That probably made alot less sense that what it was meant to:(
Maybe i just need someone to professionally master, maybe that’s all i actually need.
I had the feeling it was something deeper, but maybe it’s not. I’ll speak to Massive Masters, they should help.
By the sounds of it, it sounds like you need to book in with an engineer and them get to give you a one on one tuition on eq’ing and mix downs!
Will be 100% worth it trust me, I have used engineers so I can get the track I want plus also picked up so much more than watching video’s on here or even on my music course at college!
roben, i think if you pay a professional mixing engineer yor track will come out better.
- they probably have better equipment
- trained ear
- experience, education, training
i would ask bry or phil if they ever let a dedicated pro mixing engineer work on one of their tracks, and if so was it worth it
i would also buy a book on mixing audio, amazon has a few im sure
Cheers guys!
Yeah I think that would be awesome and exactly what I need really, to get into a studio with a professional engineer and tell him what I want and watch and learn from the experience.
I’m sure it would be really valuable knowledge either way I look at it.
Just need to find one now… lol
Thankyou so much!
i am believer that practice will fix anything you struggle . i am in the same boat as you sinnce i released a track that i end up paying the mastering from the label . since then i have been practicing alot and finally yesterday i got my brake .i am sure i am not 100% yet but i am sure we will get there if we practice .i think
[quote]roben (07/05/2010)[hr]Cheers guys!
Yeah I think that would be awesome and exactly what I need really, to get into a studio with a professional engineer and tell him what I want and watch and learn from the experience.
I’m sure it would be really valuable knowledge either way I look at it.
Just need to find one now… lol
Thankyou so much![/quote]
Where are you based and what sort of genre would you want to do mate?
Just incase I may know someone in your area.
[quote]boneidol (07/05/2010)[hr][quote]roben (07/05/2010)[hr]Cheers guys!
Yeah I think that would be awesome and exactly what I need really, to get into a studio with a professional engineer and tell him what I want and watch and learn from the experience.
I’m sure it would be really valuable knowledge either way I look at it.
Just need to find one now… lol
Thankyou so much![/quote]
Where are you based and what sort of genre would you want to do mate?
Just incase I may know someone in your area.[/quote]
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[quote]tommyt (07/05/2010)[hr]roben, i think if you pay a professional mixing engineer yor track will come out better.
- they probably have better equipment
- trained ear
- experience, education, training
i would ask bry or phil if they ever let a dedicated pro mixing engineer work on one of their tracks, and if so was it worth it[/quote]
maybe phil or bry know a pro engineer that would mix down one of the tutorials (trance one would probably be best) and a mastering engineer that would master it and record both as a insider video to show the different way’s they both work to get “THAT” sound.
that would be good stuff
[quote]jon_fisher (08/05/2010)[hr][quote]tommyt (07/05/2010)[hr]roben, i think if you pay a professional mixing engineer yor track will come out better.
- they probably have better equipment
- trained ear
- experience, education, training
i would ask bry or phil if they ever let a dedicated pro mixing engineer work on one of their tracks, and if so was it worth it[/quote]
maybe phil or bry know a pro engineer that would mix down one of the tutorials (trance one would probably be best) and a mastering engineer that would master it and record both as a insider video to show the different way’s they both work to get “THAT” sound.[/quote]
+100!!!
d ramirez uses a engineer if you watch the future music vid he did a while ago he says he starts a track then after a while he comes in to take over for a bit as a fresh pair of ears and to offer constructive comments
if i had the coin i would do it the sa vids have helped a lot but i’m just hitting a brick wall trying to get the sound i’m after and tbh its becoming counter productive as i lose interest very quickly i think sitting with someone and talking about why they are doing what they are doing and asking questions would be a really good way to learn for all levels of experience theres always something you dont know
i just bought mixing audio concepts and practises by roey izhaki (hes a lecturer on audio engineering at some college in london) for £15 on amazon
its mega and you get a dvd with all the examples on it
im only on first chapter and its giving me a lot of ideas of what i should be doing.
id heartily recommend it - he has a website for specific questions that people can ask re mixing