right so im trying to finally nail e.q-ing on the head.
need some help for these 2 questions please !
when all sounds in your track are playing, for example a bassline, an arppegiated rhythm and a nice chord rhythm.
im i right in saying that all them sounds should be in a different frequency range in order to sound well in the mix ??
for example the bassline a low frequency, chords at mid range and arpeg a bit higher??
or
is there a way to make the sounds fit if an extra element was added to the mix which needed to sit in a frequency range that is already taken???
please guys!!!
most sounds will cover a wide range of frequencies but have a specific fundamental frequency and a few other frequencies that come through.
what you dont want is 2 sounds fighting for the same frequency so you can use EQ to clear space for the more important sound.
you wont always be able to do this if you really want 2 sounds with very similar frequencies coming through then its a case of balancing them.
using this method will help to clear a bit of space in your mix.
cheers phil!!
actually phil,
ya know how you can turn the devices on and off ( plug-ins ) !!
if you have a part of your tune that has just the kick, bass and arpeggiated rhythm playin
and keep the arpeg in the mid range with hats and such around it for the highs
then later on in the tune you add some more mid sounds. could you move the arpeg into the sort of mid highs, if need be?
so basically im asking if certain sounds dont need to stay in the same freq range???
hope i explained this ok.
hey george from my humble opinion … bang an eq on your master and really slowly scan through your freq ranges all playing and any that really stand out screechy that is where your frequencies are clashing …reset your master eq and check what instruments are in that screachy area by analyzing with an analyzer (or your ears) on individual tracks and decide which one of those sounds are more important to the mix the one that isnt … cut it! … its difficult to get right but try this it works for me (also this is an extreme way of making sure with eq that your having no harmonics clashing …but a good simple idea is to concentrate on your fundamentals ie bass and kick and look at the fundamentals 9the main highest points on an analyzer (or ears )… decide which is more important to have standing out … kick or bass fundamental if you want subby bass then you need to take that range out of the kick and vica versa …
hope this helps 
im really sorry egg… but i dont think i understand, lol
[quote]georgekadar (29/07/2010)[hr]actually phil,
ya know how you can turn the devices on and off ( plug-ins ) !!
if you have a part of your tune that has just the kick, bass and arpeggiated rhythm playin and keep the arpeg in the mid range with hats and such around it for the highs
then later on in the tune you add some more mid sounds. could you move the arpeg into the sort of mid highs, if need be?
so basically im asking if certain sounds dont need to stay in the same freq range???
hope i explained this ok.[/quote]
One way to ensure certain sounds don’t stay in the same freq as others is to play the sound using a higher or lower octave (s); or choose a different sound with a different fundamental freq. You can try using EQ to make it fit a higher or lower range, as long as doing that makes your song sound better.
In some of my music, I might have pads and arpegs and/or leads in the same octave. If something doesn’t sound right, I might use EQ to cut out where one instrument is to make an instrument fit, and boost it in another area. You just have to play around with the EQ. If no matter what you do is working to help/fix the mix, you might have to change the sound or drop a sound during a section of the song to make the sounds fit within the same freq range.
Unless you’re an expert at mixing/eqing, it is best to keep the amount of sounds to a minimum, and each to their own freq range if possible; or try not to have more than 2 in the same octave/range. Some of the best songs have few instruments and are very simple in structure. Once you get the hang of mixing, add more sounds, and experiment.
[quote]phil johnston (29/07/2010)[hr]most sounds will cover a wide range of frequencies but have a specific fundamental frequency and a few other frequencies that come through.
what you dont want is 2 sounds fighting for the same frequency so you can use EQ to clear space for the more important sound.
you wont always be able to do this if you really want 2 sounds with very similar frequencies coming through then its a case of balancing them.
using this method will help to clear a bit of space in your mix.[/quote]
you could just pan the two sounds, also two sounds sharing the same fundamental frequency don’t always have to sound bad.
also you can spectate the sounds by shifting the attack stage slightly on one sound.
on other option is to use EQ dependent ducking… so like when the vocal comes in it ducks out the synth sitting in the same register.
same as the side chaining on bass but using other sounds and specific frequency bands
[quote]phil johnston (30/07/2010)[hr]on other option is to use EQ dependent ducking… so like when the vocal comes in it ducks out the synth sitting in the same register.
same as the side chaining on bass but using other sounds and specific frequency bands[/quote]
thats a cool tip
yeah but do you actually do that ducking thing??
thanks for that tip jrel… that seemed register in my brain quite well, lol !!!
[quote]georgekadar (29/07/2010)[hr]im really sorry egg… but i dont think i understand, lol[/quote]
ok im gonna do an eq vid because reading really did my head in when i was trying to understand this and also i can explain better with showing people thatn xplaining in writing
[quote]egg2 (30/07/2010)[hr][quote]georgekadar (29/07/2010)[hr]im really sorry egg… but i dont think i understand, lol[/quote]
ok im gonna do an eq vid because reading really did my head in when i was trying to understand this and also i can explain better with showing people thatn xplaining in writing :)[/quote]
he really doesn’t need to see one of your “tuition” videos bren
[quote]phil johnston (30/07/2010)[hr]on other option is to use EQ dependent ducking… so like when the vocal comes in it ducks out the synth sitting in the same register.
same as the side chaining on bass but using other sounds and specific frequency bands[/quote]
hmm i was starting to use use that technique lately and works wonders. also try to adjust the velocity . IMO Dynamics and EQ does the job
im happy to see this E.Q vid egg
send it to mmmmeeeeeeee!!! lol
reading is a bit tougher…
especially when you know what ya wanna say and ya just cant get it out into text!!!
or when ya eventually do its like a big story…
[quote]jon_fisher (30/07/2010)[hr][quote]egg2 (30/07/2010)[hr][quote]georgekadar (29/07/2010)[hr]im really sorry egg… but i dont think i understand, lol[/quote]
ok im gonna do an eq vid because reading really did my head in when i was trying to understand this and also i can explain better with showing people thatn xplaining in writing :)[/quote]
he really doesn’t need to see one of your “tuition” videos bren[/quote]
do you think it will be wrong ? hahahahahahah:D
[quote]georgekadar (30/07/2010)[hr]yeah but do you actually do that ducking thing??
thanks for that tip jrel… that seemed register in my brain quite well, lol !!![/quote]
possible tech tip on this one maybe?
will write it down and see if we can’t explain this a bit better.
[quote]bryan spence (05/08/2010)[hr][quote]georgekadar (30/07/2010)[hr]yeah but do you actually do that ducking thing??
thanks for that tip jrel… that seemed register in my brain quite well, lol !!![/quote]
possible tech tip on this one maybe?
will write it down and see if we can’t explain this a bit better.[/quote]
yeah tech tip on this please, was trying it yesterday but dunno if I was doing it the correct way, could hear much of a differents…