Gettin Kick to Compete with samples

Hi. Love Kick. I use it in all my projects. I usually end up using kick for the click or the mid “thump” but I havn’t succeeded in getting the oumph or power from the low-end. I’ve asked around and it seems I’m not the only one. Sampled Kicks still seem to get the job done better for me in the 30-85 range. Do you have any advice as far as processing tricks that may have helped you guys use Kick exclusively in your music.

Funnily enough, I’ve found the opposite, I’ve been using Kick primarily for the sub part of my kicks and use samples for the click.br
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Try layering notes on the piano roll, it doubles up the sound from Kick, I had 3 of the same kick playing on one of my projectsbr