i have vengeance kick samples and they all seem to have a slight bit of distortion on them. any1 know why??
are there any other good kick samples out there?
Depends which one you’re using… But try turning down the sampling volume to somewhere around -9 to -12 dB. Also you can do a bit of high-ratio compression to make the kick a bit more solid.
Just saying, you can’t get better than Vengeance. Their kicks have never failed me.
I prefer the xfer sample packs from Deadmau5 & Steve Duda over vengeance.
Xfer has excellent kicks, snares & claps. i have vengeance 2… i just go back to xfer a lot.
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I saw them used by Olav Basoski on an EDM tutorial a while back and they are phenomenal. Incredible depth and power, and lots of variety too.
cheers guys
I keep hearing about these vengeance samples…where can I get them?
[quote]el homes (05/03/2011)[hr]I keep hearing about these vengeance samples…where can I get them?[/quote]
google it dude:cool:
why not just get a kick from your fav track and sample it?
dont sample from mp3s tho u divs!
I really found the xfer kicks from deadmau5 a huge pile of wank, I dunno but they just sound extremely weak…
Yeah that’s the link.
And I used to sample from songs, but when you send it through your drum bus processor and eq and compression, they tend to sort of lose stuff. I can’t explain it. The nice thing is that you really only need two or three nice kick samples to make tons of different kick sounds.
[quote]Flaxo (06/03/2011)[hr]Yeah that’s the link.
And I used to sample from songs, but when you send it through your drum bus processor and eq and compression, they tend to sort of lose stuff. I can’t explain it.[/quote]
surely if you take a kick sample from a commercially available track, its already been eq’d compressed mastered etc
therefore it shd only be given a very light touch of eq and compression just to merge it into your track
if you overdo it it will become overcompressed and sound crap
i found one i really like and it sounds way better than the ones i have made by trying to combine different samples from packs
if you sample kicks from other commercial tracks… you never learn how 2 make your own.
[quote]UnitedVision (07/03/2011)[hr]if you sample kicks from other commercial tracks… you never learn how 2 make your own.[/quote]
yeah well i spent long enough trying different variations and was never satisfied
if someone who has a proper studio has made one already then f**k it i’ll just use that!
then i can get on with making the rest of a track rather than obsessing about the crap kick sound
so i use one kick sample that i know works and i like the sound of and is eq’d well already rather than 3 combinations of random samples from a sample pack and force them together
as short cuts go its not the cheatiest!
[quote]chekka (07/03/2011)[hr][quote]UnitedVision (07/03/2011)[hr]if you sample kicks from other commercial tracks… you never learn how 2 make your own.[/quote]
yeah well i spent long enough trying different variations and was never satisfied
if someone who has a proper studio has made one already then f**k it i’ll just use that!
then i can get on with making the rest of a track rather than obsessing about the crap kick sound
so i use one kick sample that i know works and i like the sound of and is eq’d well already rather than 3 combinations of random samples from a sample pack and force them together
as short cuts go its not the cheatiest! ;)[/quote]
lots of people do this. i’m not saying you can’t do this…
everybody has a different thought process behind whats important. opinions are like noses.
i also stopped layering my kicks. I pick 1 good kick. EQ and whatever else I want and thats it.
Sure you can sample it from somebody else’s track to save time… I’d rather not.
The kick is NOT a crap sound. the kick is the most prominent sound in dance music.
If the kick sucks, the rest of the track will be average at best…
I do often wonder what Thomas Bangalter or Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo would think about people having the attitude that they don’t have the time or patience to worry about making good original kick drums. They are the sampling masters. But I highly doubt that they would agree that its not worth knowing how to do properly. And I bet if you asked them what they do for kicks, they would tell you that they made every one, and they didnt sample it from another house track.
i agree that it is better to do it properly
but daft punk lest we forget are professional musicians
im a harrassed father of 2 with a full time job and dont get to spend anywhere near as much time as i would like fiddling around to make everything sound perfect
and unlike them i dont have a professional disco dad to teach me a few tricks either!
i have a pc and one good monitor and no acoustic treatment a patio door and loads of kids toys
not the environment to perfectly eq a kick and make it all my own, as desirable as that would be
so i make the best of it
and as you say the kick in a dance track is the most important bit - so i use one i know works, not one that when someone else hears it in their real studio environment they say its a good track but the bottom end is sh*t so we cant sign it after all
necessity being the mother of invention after all
Surely just sample from a track you like? What’s the point in wasting time layering when most of you won’t have trained your ears to know what’s really happening with the EQ changes.
Check out the Vengeance Essential House samples, the kicks in their are pretty clean…