guys
to clean up the bottom end of your mixes and to get the bass and kick to work easier together, do you hi pass the kick to remove some of the subs? i know we should do it as a matter of course at about 20-30hz anyway to remove the subs we cant hear that mess with the dynamic processing effects, but what about doing it higher… like 50-60hz…?
cheers
I wait till my mastering and then roll off below 30 on the overall track. That way the bass bottom end goes out aswell and its no loss to overall quality
Well I do get rid of the headroom eating sub stuff as a matter of course.
As to more of a drastic cut, doesn’t it depend on whether your kick is higher than your bass or vice versa? If they’re close in Freq anyway I tend to notch cut and boost at appropriate freqs in each channel if necessary.
[quote]jpgetty2win (02/01/2011)[hr]guys
to clean up the bottom end of your mixes and to get the bass and kick to work easier together, do you hi pass the kick to remove some of the subs? i know we should do it as a matter of course at about 20-30hz anyway to remove the subs we cant hear that mess with the dynamicprocessing effects, but what about doing it higher… like 50-60hz…?
cheers[/quote]
Well m8 hows tricks …
The hi pass on my kick would usually sit around 45-50hz but like most things its really down to preference, putting a 50-60hz HPF on the bass opens up a lot of space to drop your subs in, then tweak to suite 
I like to automate my Kick HPF as well…
But yea, setting a HPF to your kick is the way i try to keep things in order in the low end and would recommend it, the more space the better
It really depends whether my kick is riding above my bass or below.
The last couple of tracks i’ve been working on i’ve added a sub bass channel so for that i’ve high passed the kick so give room for the sub bass frequencies.
thanks guys. ive been doing it recently cos it really cleans up the low end but was thinking to myself, i wonder if im actually messing my tracks up for when they play on a bigger system in a club…
thanks for puttin me mind at rest 
it depends on what i am making. it all depends on where the bass sits. I have to be careful with the sub bass too. just watch carefully.
[quote]jpgetty2win (02/01/2011)[hr]thanks guys. ive been doing it recently cos it really cleansup the low end but was thinking to myself, i wonder if im actually messing my tracks up for when they play on a bigger system in a club…
thanks for puttin me mind at rest ;)[/quote]
I heard a slight boost around 60hz works wonders for your kick & bass on most club systems, i haven’t had a chance to test this yet but would love to know if this is a good rule of thumb or not
[quote]Sewell (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]jpgetty2win (02/01/2011)[hr]thanks guys. ive been doing it recently cos it really cleansup the low end but was thinking to myself, i wonder if im actually messing my tracks up for when they play on a bigger system in a club…
thanks for puttin me mind at rest ;)[/quote]
I heard a slight boost around 60hz works wonders for your kick & bass on most club systems, i haven’t had a chance to test this yet but would love to know if this is a good rule of thumb or not :)[/quote]
Bad idea dude. Not all kicks sound the same.
[quote]howiegroove (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]Sewell (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]jpgetty2win (02/01/2011)[hr]thanks guys. ive been doing it recently cos it really cleansup the low end but was thinking to myself, i wonder if im actually messing my tracks up for when they play on a bigger system in a club…
thanks for puttin me mind at rest ;)[/quote]
I heard a slight boost around 60hz works wonders for your kick & bass on most club systems, i haven’t had a chance to test this yet but would love to know if this is a good rule of thumb or not :)[/quote]
Bad idea dude. Not all kicks sound the same.[/quote]
+1
Use you’re frequency spectrum to see where it’s sitting and where (if at all) to add a boost, also sometimes a small boost (with a high Q) somewhere between 2-4khz also helps to add a nice click, but again like Howie said, because all kicks are different it really depends where you add the boost (if at all).
[quote]Japwow (02/01/2011)[hr]I wait till my mastering and then roll off below 30 on the overall track. That way the bass bottom end goes out aswell and its no loss to overall quality[/quote]
although there is no real right or wrong way to do it most engineers would say thats not the best way to do it. If a frequency needs cutting then cut it on that track and not the over all sound.
[quote]Roben (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]howiegroove (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]Sewell (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]jpgetty2win (02/01/2011)[hr]thanks guys. ive been doing it recently cos it really cleansup the low end but was thinking to myself, i wonder if im actually messing my tracks up for when they play on a bigger system in a club…
thanks for puttin me mind at rest ;)[/quote]
I heard a slight boost around 60hz works wonders for your kick & bass on most club systems, i haven’t had a chance to test this yet but would love to know if this is a good rule of thumb or not :)[/quote]
Bad idea dude. Not all kicks sound the same.[/quote]
+1
Use you’re frequency spectrum to see where it’s sitting and where (if at all) to add a boost, also sometimes a small boost (with a high Q) somewhere between 2-4khz also helps to add a nice click, but again like Howie said, because all kicks are different it really depends where you add the boost (if at all).
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Spot on Roben, cheers for the tip m8, i really need to be using my analyzers a bit more
[quote]Sewell (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]Roben (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]howiegroove (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]Sewell (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]jpgetty2win (02/01/2011)[hr]thanks guys. ive been doing it recently cos it really cleansup the low end but was thinking to myself, i wonder if im actually messing my tracks up for when they play on a bigger system in a club…
thanks for puttin me mind at rest ;)[/quote]
I heard a slight boost around 60hz works wonders for your kick & bass on most club systems, i haven’t had a chance to test this yet but would love to know if this is a good rule of thumb or not :)[/quote]
Bad idea dude. Not all kicks sound the same.[/quote]
+1
Use you’re frequency spectrum to see where it’s sitting and where (if at all) to add a boost, also sometimes a small boost (with a high Q) somewhere between 2-4khz also helps to add a nice click, but again like Howie said, because all kicks are different it really depends where you add the boost (if at all).
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Spot on Roben, cheers for the tip m8, i really need to be using my analyzers a bit more :)[/quote]
No probs, remember not to be ‘gospel’ with your analyser, trust your ears. Sometimes try listening whilst not looking at the screen, you hear things differently when you’re eyes aren’t looking at it… it’s kinda weird how that works but yeah.
[quote]Roben (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]Sewell (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]Roben (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]howiegroove (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]Sewell (02/01/2011)[hr][quote]jpgetty2win (02/01/2011)[hr]thanks guys. ive been doing it recently cos it really cleansup the low end but was thinking to myself, i wonder if im actually messing my tracks up for when they play on a bigger system in a club…
thanks for puttin me mind at rest ;)[/quote]
I heard a slight boost around 60hz works wonders for your kick & bass on most club systems, i haven’t had a chance to test this yet but would love to know if this is a good rule of thumb or not :)[/quote]
Bad idea dude. Not all kicks sound the same.[/quote]
+1
Use you’re frequency spectrum to see where it’s sitting and where (if at all) to add a boost, also sometimes a small boost (with a high Q) somewhere between 2-4khz also helps to add a nice click, but again like Howie said, because all kicks are different it really depends where you add the boost (if at all).
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Spot on Roben, cheers for the tip m8, i really need to be using my analyzers a bit more :)[/quote]
No probs, remember not to be ‘gospel’ with your analyser, trust your ears. Sometimes try listening whilst not looking at the screen, you hear things differently when you’re eyes aren’t looking at it… it’s kinda weird how that works but yeah. :)[/quote]
I hear m8
I do that on every master though. That isnt meaning thats all you should do i assumed the question was releated to after all the proper eq and cutting holes had been done.
If you dont cut hole things will clash its eq101