How To Make - Synthwave with Timecop 1983 / 221

Stuck on tutorial 2…can’t seem to reproduce the sound after plugins. I even used the included FLP file directly, without modification, in FL Studio 20 and it sounds like crap compared to what is show in the video. I also tried copying over all of the plugin settings to equivalent plugins of Presonus Studio One 4, but the sound after plugins is still not as good as in the video.

What am I missing?

Hey there @kmav

IMO it’s almost impossible to get the same results as what you hear from a tutorial, you can get pretty close but not the same. The reason for that is that too many parameters are involved, like the DAW & plugins we"re using to replicate a tutorial and track and also our listening environment & gears VS how it was made & recorded for the course.

That’s something to bear in mind, now the question is are you getting a similar sound or something very far from the course ? Might be good to pay attention to levels and input levels reaching the plugins you used but again it’s a normal thing that your track would sound different than the tutorial’s final mix-down.

I think the important point is to grab the techniques out of the tutorials and to learn how to replicate them with your own Studio setup, both hardware & software parts, don’t be too harsh on yourself if not getting the exact same results or polished sound than a tutor, using one or another plugin or DAW can make a drastic difference and sometimes, even a slight plugin parameter value can induce differences in sound results, even if you can use a full course project with the exact same plugins & parameters values, there still be a difference due to your own listening environment, so getting a similar sound is already an achievement IMHO. :slight_smile:

nice

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bought my subscription because of this tutorial! I don’t have FL but the knowledge is in scope!

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Is the Lush-101 preset “Brash” used in Tutorial 03 (Bass and Arp) at 3:45 included in the course resources? If not, could you please point users to where we can find it? Thanks.

Hi there @gnmidi

Yes, once the .zip archive expanded you’ll find a folder Sonic Academy - HTM Synthwave Resources and from there go to Projects Files/Presets and all soft-synth presets are there. In this case the Lush101 Preset is the edited version of this “Brash” preset used in the video, so it’s named after Main Arp - Lush101.shprs

You also find the midi parts in the course resources.

Hope this helps !

Really, really enjoyed this course, I learned something new in every video. Thank you Jordy & the Sonic Academy crew! And that VSDSX drums plugin… that’s gonna be my new favorite toy for quite a while! Wowza!!

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I am a poor polish student, but I decided that starvation is will be not that poor choice, when I can pay for this course! And for real - this course is awesome and it alone pays for the monthly subscription plan :smiley:

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I’ll touch on what I mentioned in another post and give my opinion which some may or may not agree with. To be quite honest, I’m not happy with this tutorial, particularly the mastering part and by default the mixing part or lack thereof… Clearly he did some things (which are not shown to us in this video) to get that reverb under control as it was a muddy mess before the mastering part. Then in the mastering part before he adds any processing, the reverb is “relatively” under control and the the track is mysteriously already ported to .WAV without us getting to see the further mixing he obviously did before porting it to .WAV, after which he just does an extremely simple single stem master which I can’t possibly see being all that is needed to make this a commercially viable track.

There are definitely several important things, steps, and general information being omitted in this tutorial which is disappointing. I’m very surprised that I’m the only one that I know of who seems to notice this. With that said, there are still things to learn here, so the tutorial definitely has value, just know that there are some extremely important details on the mixing and mastering that would bring this track to a commercially viable level that are completely omitted, which is a problem when it’s such a massively important part of producing a track.

Hi there @Drakkar

Sorry to read that you found the mastering part of this tutorial lacking information but IMO you’re focusing on the less important part of this course. Like the tutor mentioned, the main goal of this “How to Make” tutorial was to show how to make a synthwave genre track and I think he did pretty well in that regard. Crafting the individual sounds & arranging the all mix is very well explained and the presets + midi files as well as the FL studio project files available in the course resources really help to achieve this.

Now back to mastering, it doesn’t have to always be something extremely complicated. If the mix is already sounding good and if you took care of your levels and some EQing, it’s just a matter of cutting unwanted frequencies, final EQing and boosting the levels. So yes, you can get away with a single stem & a relatively simple mastering chain in the end.

Not sure what video you’re referring to when writing that something was done between the end of the track arrangement and the final stem export to .wav and that reverb all over the place before it. He’s not even playing the same part between video 10 & 11, so it’s difficult to judge this IMHO.

@Tekalight I respect your opinion that mixing and mastering is the less important part, but we can agree to disagree there as IMO mixing and mastering is half of the process and can literally make or break a track no matter how well its laid out or how good the individual elements sound. The type of mixing and mastering can vary by genre as well which is why it’s especially important in genre specific tutorials like this to not leave those details out. The Jaytech tutorial on this site is actually quite good in this area. As I mentioned before, this tutorial does have value for sure, and people who are interested in synthwave and getting insight into how a well known synthwave producer lays out a track could benefit from this. I’m just giving some constructive feedback so future tutorials can be more thorough. That’s my feedback, hopefully it doesn’t offend anyone and people can appreciate and focus on the constructiveness of it.

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Great Insight!

My Hero giving is giving a tutorial?? hellz yessz

Already a Legend. Great started

Great course.

I wished there were more courses on synthwave and retro wave like this

Very nice tutorial about an awesome song. Thank you

Incredible tutorial this helps me to understand more about synth music.

Stellar!