How To Make - Uplifting Trance 2019 with James Dymond / 804

Hi there @Ootje98

Which video & time are you referring to about this issue with settings those high & low pass filters ?

Hi there!

I am referring to 1:30 (LP and HP filter for the Kick&Bass Bus and the Bass Bus) and 2:25 (LP and HP filter for the Intro Leads Bus) in Tutorial 17 - Intro Structure Part 1.

Setting up either a LP or a HP filters seems to be no problem, but once I set up both a LP and a HP filter, things are getting complicated.

@Ootje98 Yep, not very clear from the video how the filters were set up, not sure what device is used & how it’s set and if the LP & HP filters are applied on a send track or if the tracks like “Kick HP” are simply automation lanes. I also opened the project downloaded from the resources, it might help to see what has been done, but since I’m really into unknown territory when it comes to FL Studio, I’m still unsure about the above. Have you tried to check with the full project btw @Ootje98 ?

@James_Dymond could you please get back to @Ootje98 question and explain a bit more about the way those LP & HP filters are setup during what you refer as the “DJ Intro”, the purpose is obvious but the way it was done might not be clear for some people I think, thanks.

I got it sorted out! I want to thank you for your help and @James_Dymond for this great course :slight_smile:

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@Ootje98

OK, cool to read that you get it to work, thanks for the update. Sorry I couldn’t help much, again I’m not familiar with FL Studio. The way I would do this in another DAW like Ableton Live would be to set a filter device on each track like Kick, Bass, Sub…etc. Setting up the filter accordingly ( Low Pass or High Pass ) and then write the filter cutoff automation curve.

Sometimes if you have many tracks that need to be filtered, it can lead to simple mistakes like using the wrong filter type or writing the automation curve in the wrong way.

Anyway, good that you got it working :wink:

The only 3rd party plugin I do not yet have is the Vertigo VSC-2. I intend to get it when its on sale or when its in the budget. Until then I was curious to know any alternatives that can achieve a similar result on the busses.

I use Logic Pro X that has a compressor with 3 types of VCA:
‘Studio’ based on the Focusrite Red 3
‘Classic’ based on the dbx 165a
‘Vintage’ based on the SSL G Bus. (I think I can rule this out as he uses an SSL when he needs one)

Otherwise I do own the FabFilter Pro C2 whic halso has a few compression types.

So far (up to video 18) this has been a great tutorial. I didn’t need the composition or sound design, so I’m glad this specifically focused on the eq, processing, and mixing.

I also don’t yet own the Slate Digital ones, though I do use the Waves NLS and Soundtoys Decaptitator (very subtley) to get more or less the same result.

finished the course a few weeks back and it made loads of difference in my new projects & workflow. Now I want to comment for those sweet sweet points :slight_smile: cheers James, & thank you sonic academy

@Matthias1981 - to be honest, I would say from experience that the Vertigo VSC-2 is actually quite similar to the SSL G Bus comp. The main difference I find is the attack on the SSL is a little bit ‘sweeter’ and less harsh than the VSC.

So the ‘Vintage’ comp on Logic Pro X should replicate the sound quite nicely.

It’s been a while since I’ve used Logic, but I do remember that on vX the different compressor settings/emulations are really nice!!

I wouldn’t get too caught up about which type of compressor to use for certain situations. If you don’t have the one I used, just something you have already.

In this course, I wanted to show what effect a compressor will have on a particular instrument/group - the end result. I use the “analog emulations” because I feel they give more ‘character’ to the compression, but you can still use “digital” compressors and achieve a very close result to what we have in the videos :slight_smile:

Hope that helps!

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@Ootje98 & @Tekalight

First of all, Tekalight - thank you for commenting on multiple posts on here, helping to answer and explain other user’s questions. Looks like you know your production stuff for sure!!

Secondly, apologies for the delay in responding, but it seems like you have sorted out your issue already.

But just to add my bit of input…

I have added Low Pass and High Pass filters on the: kick & bass bus, HP on the kick, LP & HP on the bass, LP & resonance automation on the Perc Bus… And then multiple LP & HP on the rest of the elements.

The low pass will remove frequencies starting from the high end down to the low - vice versa, the high pass will remove frequencies starting from the low end up to the high.

I used both these filters throughout the project to control either the low or high in certain areas. For example, building up to a main transition I wanted to take the low end out of the kick/bass/sub. So I automated the ‘cut off’ on the high pass filter. Therefore, as the cut off moves upwards it ‘cuts off’ the low end.

Vice versa - I wanted to reduce the amount of high end you hear in the Percussion. So I used the ‘low pass filter’, and brought down the ‘cut off’. Therefore, as the cut off moves down it ‘cuts off’ the high end of the perc.

Hope that helps!
James.

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Amazing, great to hear! Good luck!

Thanks for the kind words as well as explaining your filters setup in detail, it really makes sense and it’s a very neat way to bring that Club performance feel to tracks. Was just lost in FL studio and didn’t grab it at first, really need to spend more time with this DAW. Will certainly check some of your other tutorials here on S.A as well. Thanks again :wink:

Amazing course and it’s really helped me with my processing of sounds.

Hey,

are the presets part of the resources?
Am in a facebook group which is about producing a guy told me this H2M Uplfiting Trance is great so i wanted to buy it. Another guy told me he doesnt have the presets for the synths and he cant recover it from the .flp. Is that true that the presets arent included?

Hey @James_Dymond , absolutely loving this tutorial series! It’s really given me awareness as to how much I was overcomplicating my workflow and the struggle to finish tracks fast!

I just wanted to confirm if you remove Reverb/Delay on all of your sounds in the respective synth (specifically leads/plucks/mid bass) prior to bus processing?

The presets are easy to get. All one needs is Sylenth, Spire and ANA-2, and the trial version of FL Studio 20…I had to get this as Logic Pro X is my primary DAW. I wouldn’t know if it doesn’t work on earlier versions of FL…but it DOES work with the trial version of the one downloadable from Image-Line.

All you do, is go to each instrument channel, bring up the GUI of each synth, then go to their menu > save preset as. To make them easier to find…don’t save them in the default directory. Instead make a new folder on the Desktop, and save each preset with the name of the channel “Lead 1” “Intro Pluck 1”, etc. The ANA 2 presets don’t need to be saved, its much faster just to search for the names within its Browser. – To go even further, one could save all of the 3rd party presets, provided they have the respective Waves, ArtsAcoustic… the FabFilter Q1 ones, as long as one owns Q2 or Q3, they can get a free license for version 1 (I had to do this also). For those using cracks…can’t help ya there, I bought mine.

– It took me less than 10 minutes to do, and I hadn’t even touched FL Studio since…whenever it was still called Fruityloops.

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James out of curiousity what filter slope are you using for these? I have the Sonalksis filter. I figure its either 12 or 24 but just wanted to check. Thanks again.

I have cubase, does your stuff work with any DAW?

I have Cubase, but I’m pretty sure that I can use the plugins that I have!

Hey there @mrdjcosmo

Yes in general it’s always possible to follow a tutorial in a different DAW than the tutor’s one. 3rd party plugins can be load in major DAWs ( a bit more tricky for people using Logic Pro and therefore restricted to AU plugins format though ), stock plugins used innside the tutor’s DAW can be replaced by your own DAW stock plugins counterparts, most DAWs have similar effects & tools nowadays.

IMO, though it can be a bit more difficult than using the same DAW as in the course, it’s a very good learning path & exercise to reproduce the tutorial inside your own DAW, very beneficial for learning as opposed to just copy/paste settings if using the same DAW.

great!