I was thinking this last night as to how people with MixIng problems could get hands on help -
The Creator of the Track would send you the Full track and then the Track in single Wave files . You guys would then brake it down and show how to “FIX the MIX” live on a Cam - Not only dose the producer who made the track learn a thing or Two but all who wacth the Show will learn alot as well .
Calll this Part of your Website “FIX the MIX”
Just an Idea
that is a great idea. I myself have so much issues in the MIX . and that happens when i try to create a really Deep basslines
[quote]alinenunez (26/04/2010)[hr]that is a great idea. I myself have so much issues in the MIX . and that happens when i try to create a really Deep basslines :([/quote]
Yeah I feel your pain on the Bass , I have more problems on PADS and Synth MIxing together as one . You know when you hear the Track and you know its Good but the MIX is blocking the beauty of the Track ? Makes me want to cry sometimes lol
[quote]Redemption (26/04/2010)[hr][quote]alinenunez (26/04/2010)[hr]that is a great idea. I myself have so much issues in the MIX . and that happens when i try to create a really Deep basslines :([/quote]
Yeah I feel your pain on the Bass , I have more problems on PADS and Synth MIxing together as one . You know when you hear the Track and you know its Good but the MIX is blocking the beauty of the Track ? Makes me want to cry sometimes lol[/quote]
exactly !!!heeheh
sounds like a great idea, i fully back this what do you think s.a?
Is a good idea, maybe it could be part of a competition because it just wouldn’t be feasable to literally do everyones mix.
Lets say the winning track gets the pro SA mix video.
Chris and I where actually talking about this the other day… we both mix completely differently… would be interesting to both make different mixes and videos and talk through each one.
[quote]phil johnston (26/04/2010)[hr]Chris and I where actually talking about this the other day… we both mix completely differently… would be interesting to both make different mixes and videos and talk through each one.[/quote]
That would be awesome. To see that :). Also can you makeit one mix in ableton and the other one in cubase? Plz.
Lets do then Phil, mine would be in logic though!
i think robens idea to use the winner of the remix comp as a sample for this would be really cool
Good idea:D
[quote]tommyt (27/04/2010)[hr]i think robens idea to use the winner of the remix comp as a sample for this would be really cool[/quote]
Me too
My prayers have been answered…WHOOP WHOOP
im struggling with mixing down big time the past few weeks…
GREAT IDEA
I think i’m struggling with mix downs too. At least i THINK i am. Problem i’m finding with my tracks is they sound good when I play them, i’ve worked the EQ of everything and made sure everything fits together, also worked pans and thought about my stereo range… but when i play it alongside a released track, i notice a difference. It’s not the loudness, it seems to be something else like a all round fullness of it.
Maybe it’s just the mastering, but i feel it must be more than that. I thought maybe it could be my mix downs?
[quote]roben (28/04/2010)[hr]I think i’m struggling with mix downs too. At least i THINK i am. Problem i’m finding with my tracks is they sound good when I play them, i’ve worked the EQ of everything and made sure everything fits together, also worked pans and thought about my stereo range… but when i play it alongside a released track, i notice a difference. It’s not the loudness, it seems to be something else like a all round fullness of it.
Maybe it’s just the mastering, but i feel it must be more than that. I thought maybe it could be my mix downs?
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You are probably hearing the mastering portion of it. A mixdown will not be loud. All it does, is make sure that your sounds sit properly in your mix. When I mix down, I will always have Ozone on the master track that I can A/B with to get an idea of what the loudness will sound like after mastering.
[quote]roben (28/04/2010)[hr]I think i’m struggling with mix downs too. At least i THINK i am. Problem i’m finding with my tracks is they sound good when I play them, i’ve worked the EQ of everything and made sure everything fits together, also worked pans and thought about my stereo range… but when i play it alongside a released track, i notice a difference. It’s not the loudness, it seems to be something else like a all round fullness of it.
Maybe it’s just the mastering, but i feel it must be more than that. I thought maybe it could be my mix downs?
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Hi Roben, usually a compression is attributed with bringing fulness and ‘roundness’ to the mix, gelling it together. Try some on your master, you don’t want to do much just a few dB, with low ratio (1.5:1 maybe) and soft knee, (and in RMS mode) or just start from ‘mix gel’ preset. There are of course plugs better suited for mix bus compression but abletons one should be a good start.
Also try running your mix thru a saturation/compression plug such as PSP Vintage Warmer, this thing really can do wonders to your mix(but be gentle with it ), you can download demo for free from their web page.
I’m experimenting (mixing in to a compressor) at the moment with a combination of the above and some emulations from liquid mix. Great fun but…too much choice
BTW Great idea with Fix the mix concept!
Hi Roben, usually a compression is attributed with bringing fulness and ‘roundness’ to the mix, gelling it together. Try some on your master, you don’t want to do much just a few dB, with low ratio (1.5:1 maybe) and soft knee, (and in RMS mode) or just start from ‘mix gel’ preset. There are of course plugs better suited for mix bus compression but abletons one should be a good start.
Also try running your mix thru a saturation/compression plug such as PSP Vintage Warmer, this thing really can do wonders to your mix(but be gentle with it ), you can download demo for free from their web page.
I’m experimenting (mixing in to a compressor) at the moment with a combination of the above and some emulations from liquid mix. Great fun but…too much choice
BTW Great idea with Fix the mix concept!
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Hey thanks - Also when you said the above ( Mixing into a a Compressor ) what did you mean by that "start a track with comp on the Full track , before you start mixing ?
[quote]Redemption (28/04/2010)[hr]
Hi Roben, usually a compression is attributed with bringing fulness and ‘roundness’ to the mix, gelling it together. Try some on your master, you don’t want to do much just a few dB, with low ratio (1.5:1 maybe) and soft knee, (and in RMS mode) or just start from ‘mix gel’ preset. There are of course plugs better suited for mix bus compression but abletons one should be a good start.
Also try running your mix thru a saturation/compression plug such as PSP Vintage Warmer, this thing really can do wonders to your mix(but be gentle with it ), you can download demo for free from their web page.
I’m experimenting (mixing in to a compressor) at the moment with a combination of the above and some emulations from liquid mix. Great fun but…too much choice
BTW Great idea with Fix the mix concept!
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Hey thanks - Also when you said the above ( Mixing into a a Compressor ) what did you mean by that "start a trackwith comp on the Full track , before you start mixing ? [/quote]
Yes, mixing in to a compressor can give you a better idea of what the finished track is going to sound like, many producers mix in this way (and mix ‘as they go’ rather than wait for all the parts to be finished). There are many advantages, one being that you’re not going to kid yourself that things can be fixed later on in mixing or mastering. So you tend to get things right from the start, also it can be more rewarding, because you get a feel for it quicker
That’s one school, the other one is that you should never mix in to a compressor, IMO more associated with mixing ‘real’ instruments. (But booth techniques are used by engineers mixing pop, rock, etc)
So the best thing to do is …to try it Mix a few tracks in to a compressor and see which one you like best…what sounds better is better
I’m not great at mixing (either way it takes time to learn) but I feel that my tracks improved quite a lot with this technique. So in my (very) subjective opinion it is sooooo much better
Hope this helps mate.
Cheers Sean, i’ll give it a go. also will play with the vintage warmer maybe that might help.
[quote]howiegroove (28/04/2010)[hr][quote]roben (28/04/2010)[hr]I think i’m struggling with mix downs too. At least i THINK i am. Problem i’m finding with my tracks is they sound good when I play them, i’ve worked the EQ of everything and made sure everything fits together, also worked pans and thought about my stereo range… but when i play it alongside a released track, i notice a difference. It’s not the loudness, it seems to be something else like a all round fullness of it.
Maybe it’s just the mastering, but i feel it must be more than that. I thought maybe it could be my mix downs?
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You are probably hearing the mastering portion of it. A mixdown will not be loud. All it does, is make sure that your sounds sit properly in your mix. When I mix down, I will always have Ozone on the master track that I can A/B with to get an idea of what the loudness will sound like after mastering.[/quote]
spot on