I listen to producers such as Wolfgang Gartner, Deadmau5 and countless others and I am always drawn and inspired how their low end sounds so perfect. I sit in envy desiring to create such low end sounds. You can hear my kicks but they lack that low end phatty sound. I compress a bass sound and side-chaining it with my Kick drums and it does sounds better but there is still something lacking leaving me with unsatisfactorily.
So, my question is this, how can I give my low end (kicks and bass line) that wide but crisp phat dominace without redlining???
Thanks in advanced!
Some things that might give your sounds à bit more warmth and phatness and just à bit more oomph are the waves RBass and the waves linear lowband eq.
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Deadmau5 & wolfgang gartner are my faves too. Their sounds are so unique even their music from 3 yrs ago to now.
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I have the same thoughts my self. I have a really good kick and a nice bass. But when i listen to (it don´t have to deadmau5) but any track on beatport it´s sound like the lowend bass is so much wider, fluffier but still very fat. I followed the progressivehouse tutorial (cubase) which is superb in all ways! But it don´t make that "magic"with the bass that you´ll hear on the beatport tracks. There must be some formula or trick to make this happen! At least some directions to be point at to get closer to this magic:)
I hope…
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@Op, you’re on the right path man. I wouldn’t worry too much about sidechaining at this point, instead try layering up a nice kick (this is shown in a lot of the tuts) then add some other simple percussion instruments like, closed/open hats, snare etc, just the general rhythm that you want for the track, ie a drum loop.
Once you’ve done this, a simple bass tone, doesn’t have to be fancy just yet because it’s all about the groove at this point. I.e, what works well with your rhythm. Like you could just record it live in midi with you tapping a key to the drums looping over until you find something you like. From there you can go into your piano roll, take say an 8bar loop, mess around with the notes a little, moving them up and down, shifting right to left slightly etc. Then you can go into your synth and start messing around with the presets until you find something real nice, which sounds fat etc.
Hope that helps!
Uhhhh, no, its alot more difficult then that. Getting them to sit together is a GREAT combination of picking the right sounds, with the right EQ, with the right compression, with the right notes, with the right punch, and so on and so forth. If it sits well and you are a beginner, you got lucky. We all get lucky. The way to make it happen more often is nothing more but practice. It took Wolfgang more then 15 years to perfect his sound and its still evolving. You will get it with the right amount of determination and patience. But you can do it man, I believe in you. Keep reading and keep practicing. In the end, know that it isnt as simple as doing one or two things all the time like might have been mentioned before. The situations always change and there is no formula, per se.
Sorry to be vague man, but there is no absolute answer, ya know? Just keep the faith brotha!
I´ll keep the faith!
I´ll put my economic study aside later on and start hunting for the wide, fat lowend sound
I´ll keep the faith!
I´ll put my economic study aside later on and start hunting for the wide, fat lowend sound
[quote]marcosoul (21/10/2010)[hr]
So, my question is this, how can I give my low end (kicks and bass line) that wide but crisp phat dominace without redlining???
Thanks in advanced![/quote]
One of the best technique i have came across is using a multiband dynamics on kick…
ableton’s multiband dynamics plugin is pretty good…using this you can work with high, mid & low frequencies…in your case boost up the low end of the kick & then apply a compressor…make sure that bass & kick are not in the same key otherwise it will sound muddy & obviously we don’t want that…
layering kick may also help…you can take a top end of one kick & low end of another…
choose the right kick which goes with your bassline then play around with its frequencies untill you find what u r luking for…
Welcome to the Forum Imran!
Thanks for posting that 
getting great monitors is the greatest chance yorue gonna give yourself. steve angello mentions in one of his videos that he rents a local studio to make use of their great monitors to get the bottom end right.
Tbh you can use moderate mo itors but you then absolutely must get your studio space acousticly treated. Also do lotsa mixdowns and lotsa masters then listen in your car take notes on the sounds then go back and fix finally rinse and repeat. This may seem frustrating and annoying but might be the only way depending on your studios acoustics and monitors after a while you get used to how something ‘should’ sound in your workspace and the trips up and down to the car became far less frequent.
Decent monitors is enough; most important thing is knowing how your room sounds.
Is it safe now to start recommending Mopads or their cheaper cousins - T Akustik - Pads from Thomann?
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They’ve given me a lot more clarity & taken the boom from the room
Hey ICN, I just bought a set after I changed my desk and ended up sitting the speakers on it. Previously they’d been on proper stands. The mopads took a lot of the energy transfer into the desk away.
Excellent Jon.
I think they’re ****ing great for a bit of foam.