Just a quickie

Does one normalise when exporting for remix packs ?

No. Just use the volume faders to get each part to a decent level. You dont really wanna **** with the dynamics…

Yeah thats what I thought - cheers Jan :slight_smile:

I do. They are probably going to re level everything on their end anyway.



And I personally hate when I get packs through with stupidly quiet samples!

[quote]DFierce (28/08/2011)[hr]I do. They are probably going to re level everything on their end anyway.



And I personally hate when I get packs through with stupidly quiet samples![/quote]



Me too - anyway I just boosted the levels and the db on the samples when required

is SA going to have Noma Spectrum Remix contest?

[quote]alinenunez (28/08/2011)[hr]is SA going to have Noma Spectrum Remix contest?

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Have i had a sex change and no one told me



But hey I would be up for it (the rmx comp not the sex change) :w00t::):cool:

[quote]jjdejong0 (27/08/2011)[hr]No. Just use the volume faders to get each part to a decent level. You dont really wanna **** with the dynamics…[/quote]



Sounds like you’ve been misinformed; you are not doing anything to the dynamics of the sound by raising the level, either by fader or normalising, all you will do is make it louder. Change in the dynamic range is only going to occur if you compress/expand/limit the signal.

[quote]slender (28/08/2011)[hr][quote]alinenunez (28/08/2011)[hr]is SA going to have Noma Spectrum Remix contest?

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Have i had a sex change and no one told me



) :w00t::):cool:[/quote]





***ing autotype i swear !!! lol

Actually no dom I fear you have been misinformed. Dynamics is in turn the differences of the loudest parts of a sound and the quietest parts. Now in normalising you are making a sound all one level by boosting the quietest parts of the signal and matching them with the loudest. Now excuse me for not having a retarded brain but surely that is fkin around with dynamics?!? Seriously dom if you dont know what the **** your talkin about then please dont quote me or try to correct me…



You dont normalise remix parts, you just use those pretty little things called volume faders on your mixer to get the parts to decent levels. You dont wanna overdo it and max them out because you wanna give the potential remixer some headroom.

[quote]jjdejong0 (29/08/2011)[hr]Actually no dom I fear you have been misinformed. Dynamics is in turn the differences of the loudest parts of a sound and the quietest parts. Now in normalising you are making a sound all one level by boosting the quietest parts of the signal and matching them with the loudest. Now excuse me for not having a retarded brain but surely that is fkin around with dynamics?!? Seriously dom if you dont know what the **** your talkin about then please dont quote me or try to correct me…



You dont normalise remix parts, you just use those pretty little things called volume faders on your mixer to get the parts to decent levels. You dont wanna overdo it and max them out because you wanna give the potential remixer some headroom.[/quote]



Normalising is taking the loudest peak in the waveform and then bringing that point up to zero dB (or whatever ceiling you decide upon) with the rest of the waveform getting louder also - of course by the same amount of dBs it took to get that loudest peak to zero dB. It does not take the quietest peak and match that with the loudest - that is heavy compression/limiting. Man, where have you been learning stuff?

Look I dnt need to explain anything to you but ill put it into terms you will understand. When you **** around with the natural volume of a sound, and you fk atound with the quietest and loudest parts and not keep the natural fluxuation you are fkin around with dynamics. Now with normalization you may not completely screw yoir dynamics as much as if you used a limiter but its much better to simply raise the fader on the mixer and keep the natural relative dynamics. There are also different variations of normalization. Some take the peak level and some take an average or rms level. All im trying to point put is that why would ANYONE need a remix part normalized when simply turning the volume up a bit can be a much cleaner way of doing the same things.



Do you actually know what dynamics are?

[quote]jjdejong0 (29/08/2011)[hr]Look I dnt need to explain anything to you but ill put it into terms you will understand. When you **** around with the natural volume of a sound, and you fk atound with the quietest and loudest parts and not keep the natural fluxuation you are fkin around with dynamics. Now with normalization you may not completely screw yoir dynamics as much as if you used a limiter but its much better to simply raise the fader on the mixer and keep the natural relative dynamics. There are also different variations of normalization. Some take the peak level and some take an average or rms level. All im trying to point put is that why would ANYONE need a remix part normalized when simply turning the volume up a bit can be a much cleaner way of doing the same things.



Do you actually know what dynamics are?[/quote]



So according to you, if I took a kick drum with a 325ms decay and normalised it it would end up looking like a square wave.

[quote]jjdejong0 (29/08/2011)[hr]Look I dnt need to explain anything to you but ill put it into terms you will understand. When you **** around with the natural volume of a sound, and you fk atound with the quietest and loudest parts and not keep the natural fluxuation you are fkin around with dynamics. Now with normalization you may not completely screw yoir dynamics as much as if you used a limiter but its much better to simply raise the fader on the mixer and keep the natural relative dynamics. There are also different variations of normalization. Some take the peak level and some take an average or rms level. All im trying to point put is that why would ANYONE need a remix part normalized when simply turning the volume up a bit can be a much cleaner way of doing the same things.



Do you actually know what dynamics are?[/quote]





good point . unless the volume of the samples are super low they might need to normalize all of them . but still i don’t get it why normalizing is needed. usually is the same as volume gain .

Alot of people I know work with their master fairly low, and use the room volume to compensate. When these parts get bounced down they are super low. In Ableton that’s fine as you have the handy little slider in the clip area.



In Logic though, you can only boost it so much via the fader before you need to change the gain on the sample (destructively) or throw a gain plugin on the channel to compensate.

This is why you need to aim for a good level when your exporting remix parts and no dom that is not wehat im saying at all.

Please read carefully…

I find ticking the “Normalize” box easier. Personal preference though.

[quote]jjdejong0 (30/08/2011)[hr]This is why you need to aim for a good level when your exporting remix parts and no dom that is not wehat im saying at all.



Please read carefully…[/quote]



I did read carefully. I think you just didn’t explain yourself very clearly.

I wish someone would Normalise Jan :smiley:

[quote]ICN (31/08/2011)[hr]I wish someone would Normalise Jan :D[/quote]



hahah