What’s good everyone! I hope all is well!
I thought I’d start a conversation/ topic of serious interest to me…
Kick 2 vs Vengeance Metrum! 
With the new release of S.A. Kick 2, one can clearly tell that its a great plugin which will help simplify and fine tune one of the most important elements of any EDM track…, your kick drum! With so many kick drum plugins and variations/ styles on producing kicks, one can easily get confused or even over whelmed on which plugin to master especially being a noob to EDM music production.
My biggest challenge I’ve struggled through the years is getting the kick in tune with the fundamental key of the project which we all know is very critical. Making your kick sound tight with a strong presence and playing it in perfect harmony with the baseline yet punching through the mix is so important all before one moves any deeper into your project. I can’t tell you how many projects I have saved on my HD’s with just an 8-16 bar loop of a kick with a layered bass-lines and a small melody or arp looping over and over trying to get the kick to sit properly with project. Then you just end up saving that project never returning to it again. ( I actually have 100’s of these kick and bass loops) LOL…
Through years of trying different types of samples, synths and plugins…, I have personally decided to use and stick with Vengeance samples sets and their Metrum drum plugin to produce my drum kicks sounds. They have great quality… and I have gotten the most success compared to any other plugin, samples or drum synths that I’ve tried through out my years.
Now… with the release of S.A. Kick 2 and looking at a few videos of it, Kick 2 seems to be a much more serious plugin for producing your kicks and seems to share the same amount of editing features when compared to Vengeance Metrum.
To me, Metrum is an old plugin yet has been a head of its time by leaps and bounds and is truly underrated. I like (not love) using Metrum and had been the plugin of choice for my kick drums but it really needs an update especially simplifying the process of tuning the kick to the fundamental key and using all those little knobs within the plugin are tedious at times. My computer is a new iMac 5k and when I use Metrum, the buttons and other editing parameters knobs are so small due to the resolution of the iMac 5k so it easily becomes aggravating and tiering after a few minutes of use so one looses their motivation to produce with it. The sine wave synth in Metrum needs an update as-well as its a little difficult to get those sub frequencies for the low end of the kick. To get those sub frequencies I use in conjunction with Metrum another little plugin called Sasquatch Kick Machine to help get the punch for my kick. Together they worked great!
For those who have experience using Metrum and now have used the new Kick 2, can you chime in and make an honest comparison between these 2 plugins?
I would love to hear the Pro’s & Con’s between the two. To me, Metrum has tons of amazing features which are great and handy but when it comes to tuning the kick… its honestly a pain in the ass especially when changing in between presets. One tends to loose your creative ideas after spending so much time trying to get that right kick sound.
I wish there there was a feature were one can lock in on the fundamental key and switch through the presets with that key being locked on. Yet having a good warp engine that doesn’t cause artifacts within the sound of the kick.
What I really like about S.A. Kick 2 is the support behind the plugin which means a lot to a producer/composser and the supporting community behind the plugin. BTW! The customer support behind S.A. is TOP NOTCH so big up to S.A. and the crew… 
As for Vengeance… LMAO… I have literally spent hundreds of dollars on Vengeance prouducts from samples, plugins and presets banks through my many years of music production and its hard to get good support from them ( reFX Nexus 2 not included). Vengeance doesn’t seem to update their products very often nor provide new presets or updates which one would expect if one pays top dollar on Vengeance products.
There is also a few bugs with some of Vengeance plugins that I own and have never been corrected. I email them my issues and never get any response back or simple one word answers. Where I can send S.A. a simple question and would get a response very quickly and at times within minutes. Thats amazing! I also know that S.A. listens to their customers for feedback. Try that with Vengeance. LMAO
So now before dropping my monies onto a new plugin such as Kick 2 and having to start a new learning curve with a new plugin that produces one of the most important aspects of EDM music ( your kick drum ),… I would really like to know if one can compare the 2 plugins with each other.
Regardless of it all… I’ll likely purchase Kick 2 and post a comparison video on Youtube to show the difference between the 2 plugins. But before I do I would like to hear the other S.A. forum members thoughts and encourage them to chime in and give their thought’s, suggestions or comments… on these 2 plugin instruments that are an extension of our art form… EDM music production.
I thought it would be a good forum conversation. SO I hope to hear form you all soon…
Big Up to S.A. team! You guys are awesome!
-Pete One aka: Gami
