it’s all balderdash
[quote]dom_moulton (18/10/2011)[hr]it’s all balderdash[/quote]
It is.
It’s lost it’s soul but you have to move with the time right? I miss vinyl I’m actually thinking about going back. Everything about vinyl is better. Physical copy. Sounds better. Feels better. Flicking through it is better. And is more fun carrying it over a hard drive lol
[quote]Mussi81 (19/10/2011)[hr][quote]dom_moulton (18/10/2011)[hr]it’s all balderdash[/quote]
It is.
It’s lost it’s soul but you have to move with the time right? I miss vinyl I’m actually thinking about going back. Everything about vinyl is better. Physical copy. Sounds better. Feels better. Flicking through it is better. And is more fun carrying it over a hard drive lol[/quote]
I am buying vinyl again now, I’m bored of Traktor.
That said, great DJs are great no matter what they use. Francois Kevorkian has been using a laptop for years.
The problem is that people who learn to DJ on a laptop, on the whole, are crap.
[quote]TheAnt (19/10/2011)
That said, great DJs are great no matter what they use. Francois Kevorkian has been using a laptop for years.
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agreed!
Vinyl sales are up. Leather sales are down. In fact I sold my leather trousers years ago to an asian man in Hounslow High Street for 20 quid.
What was it like walking home in your underware Dom? 
Vinyls are awesome. Shame I don’t have the funds to buy decks and the like or else that’s all I’d do.
just use i-Tunes! 
:P;):w00t:
:hehe:
The object is to ensure the crowd enjoy themselves. How you do it doesn’t matter. Surely?
[quote]jonsloan (26/10/2011)[hr]The object is to ensure the crowd enjoy themselves. How you do it doesn’t matter. Surely?[/quote]
Whatever gave you that idea - its all about snobbery and having the right equipment - damn have you jot learn’t anything from this site :w00t:
[quote]jonsloan (26/10/2011)[hr]The object is to ensure the crowd enjoy themselves. How you do it doesn’t matter. Surely?[/quote]
Yeah totally. Personally though I get more of a buzz playing vinyl which the 100,000 strong crowd feed off.
The only way I can use traktor is to play about half a minutes worth of a track jeff mills style or a 5 minute long mix lol then it works for me
[quote]jonsloan (26/10/2011)[hr]The object is to ensure the crowd enjoy themselves. How you do it doesn’t matter. Surely?[/quote]
This is a little bit reductionist. If it was this simple a jukebox would be a better option than a DJ.
Well no, that IS reductionist. A live DJ can react to the crowd in a way that jukebox could never do.
Doing it with vinyl or digitally is irrelevant is all I’m saying. The crowd don’t care which tools you use. The whole vinyl versus digital debate is one that only DJs really care about. Usually only vinyl DJs that feel ‘cheated’ someone can come along and produce something of arguably similar quality without putting in the 100s or 1000s of hours they had to - IMO.
We’re a generation or less away from people who will have never experienced vinyl at all.
[quote]jonsloan (26/10/2011)[hr]Well no, that IS reductionist. A live DJ can react to the crowd in a way that jukebox could never do.
Doing it with vinyl or digitally is irrelevant is all I’m saying. The crowd don’t care which tools you use. The whole vinyl versus digital debate is one that only DJs really care about. Usually only vinyl DJs that feel ‘cheated’ someone can come along and produce something of arguably similar quality without putting in the 100s or 1000s of hours they had to - IMO.
We’re a generation or less away from people who will have never experienced vinyl at all.[/quote]
THIS!
Its a generational thing. One day grandads will be playing wax in their sheds and the kids will be mixing using mind control
Im gona get me one of them wooden bicycles from the 1800s
Ha exactly Phil.
Laptops just make it easier to be average they haven’t changed how hard it is to be amazing.
Honestly the best thing I have heard in ages Phil! Perfectly put.
But to add to this argument of Vinyl vs Laptop; I think the Laptop DJ shouldnt be thought of as making things easier for them but instead why not think about expecting more from them?
I am no DJ, dont know how to do it but I have dabbled in mixing tracks using Abletons Session View and realised that DJ’s with laptops shouldnt be just mixing (too f’n easy, looked at one 5 min warping tut and I was mixing just fine within the next ten mins, no fx though) but really doing things to tracks to make them almost new?
Remixing something live if the time (by time I mean training yourself not time on the remix, otherwise it wouldnt be live :P) is put into it is very possible with a Laptop but very limited with CD’s and Turntables IMO.
Add on live mashups and the possibility of making a track live (IE a live performance) and that is what I think the Laptop DJ generation will eventually come towards doing… Ofcourse the time it takes to get there will prolly be ages.
Technology can only help the industry progress so much, its the peoples job to take advantage of that technology.
To use a Laptop as a means to only make things easier to DJ is boring and I am not surprised the old school Turntablists hate the Laptop DJ’s, there not doing anything new there just emulating something old with new tech.
Instead people should be taking advantage of this tech to bring about new methods of dropping sets…
I don’t like using Traktor too. Virtual Dj probably good…