[quote]jonsloan (31/10/2011)[hr]Wouldn’t it be cool to start a set with white noise, some kind of cool spooky v/o “First there was the void…” then add a kick, get the white noise pumping along with it and intro different elements, bass and so on.
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Who would be foolish enough to do something like that
[quote]slender (31/10/2011)[hr][quote]alinenunez (30/10/2011)[hr]
i just hate to see laptop Djs playing a set hat was prepared 5 hours before the show, i would rather prefer to play some other artist mix CD. than just listening a set that is dull and boring.
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I know what your saying but that would mean that any live act would fall in to the same category - just play devil’s advocate as its Halloween :w00t:[/quote]
live acts are a not in the same Category . Live Acts usually perform Live ( Playing instruments , sequencing live , ETC. ) while Djing is mostly playing other people Music
they are totally different. a Band or a performer who do a live act have a short repertoire of their own Music. for them is ok to prepare ahead of time .
some bands even manage to improvise live.
Dj cant do that . just play other people music but the improvisation comes when choosing the right track at the right moment.
[quote]slender (31/10/2011)[hr][quote]jonsloan (31/10/2011)[hr]Wouldn’t it be cool to start a set with white noise, some kind of cool spooky v/o “First there was the void…” then add a kick, get the white noise pumping along with it and intro different elements, bass and so on.
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Who would be foolish enough to do something like that[/quote]
ME:D
[quote]alinenunez (31/10/2011)[hr][quote]slender (31/10/2011)[hr][quote]alinenunez (30/10/2011)[hr]
i just hate to see laptop Djs playing a set hat was prepared 5 hours before the show, i would rather prefer to play some other artist mix CD. than just listening a set that is dull and boring.
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I know what your saying but that would mean that any live act would fall in to the same category - just play devil’s advocate as its Halloween :w00t:[/quote]
live acts are a not in the same Category . Live Acts usually perform Live ( Playing instruments , sequencing live , ETC. ) while Djing is mostly playing other people Music
they are totally different. a Band or a performer who do a live act have a short repertoire of their own Music. for them is ok to prepare ahead of time .
some bands even manage to improvise live.
Dj cant do that . just play other people music but the improvisation comes when choosing the right track at the right moment.[/quote]
Fck that told me - going sulk in the corner now :unsure:
[quote]Walshyyy (31/10/2011)[hr]im preparing a live act that’s all done through Maschine. Basically, I will be creating about an hours worth of tracks mixed together(like an album… i guess).
then for the live act I will be messing with the patterns and scenes to create a stronger mix than the last. So when my set is done i save it then at the next show i start with that mix and completely mess around with it all over again.
Creatively I think anything like that is not cheating:P
I think Sasha is a great example of a laptop dj who isn’t cheating[/quote]
Interesting as I have the same idea (though getting a Maschine would probably help - LOL) but also launching clips in Live with my APC40 or would you think that I am just going to make my life difficult doing that
I’ll have to disagree with the original poster, after nearly 20 years as a vinyl DJ i could pretty much do what i wanted behind a set of 1210’s and almost everything i set my mind on i taught myself how to do it. However after nearly 2 years using traktor i still can’t scratch for **** on it, do great rewinds or beat juggle but i see and hear kids doing it all the time using traktor and/or ableton with ease. fact is some laptop dj’s have taken the software and taught themselves how to fully utilise their tools while others haven’t but we had that when dj’s where mixing off two decks with only a two channel mixing and no effects.
you could get APC40 or Novation Launchpad but I don’t think you would need either of them.
Maschine has a much stronger session and arrangement view than Ableton. 128 samples, 64 patterns for each sample, 64 scenes to arrange samples
Guess what the best part is… Maschine doesn’t eat up CPU like Ableton does!
[quote]Walshyyy (02/11/2011)[hr]you could get APC40 or Novation Launchpad but I don’t think you would need either of them.
Maschine has a much stronger session and arrangement view than Ableton. 128 samples, 64 patterns for each sample, 64 scenes to arrange samples
Guess what the best part is… Maschine doesn’t eat up CPU like Ableton does!
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Clarify what you mean by stronger - not being arsey just want to know
So I suppose i could import my Live clips into Maschine
The problem i see is that my tunes has so many layers and fx I am not sure if importing would be possible
I am also thinking of getting the mikro and linking my apc40 to trigger the machine and hence saving myself 200 quid which i can spend on whores
Because Ableton has so many latency issues i would do it the other way around. Put Maschine patterns into Ableton(using it as a slave)
also getting the mikro is cheating yourself out of all the fun… plus there’s more knobs to turn on the bigger one than the 200 dollars you spent on a cheap whore:D:hehe:
[quote]Walshyyy (02/11/2011)[hr]Because Ableton has so many latency issues i would do it the other way around. Put Maschine patterns into Ableton(using it as a slave)
also getting the mikro is cheating yourself out of all the fun… plus there’s more knobs to turn on the bigger one than the 200 dollars you spent on a cheap whore:D:hehe:
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But that would mean I would have to redo all my tracks in mashine - would it not
Also the apc has more knobs and buttons
And another thing the whores i sleep with have more warts than I would like to mention
Damn this music tech thing is confusing at times - should have taken up train spotting and gone for the easy life
[quote]slender (02/11/2011)[hr][quote]Walshyyy (02/11/2011)[hr]Because Ableton has so many latency issues i would do it the other way around. Put Maschine patterns into Ableton(using it as a slave)
also getting the mikro is cheating yourself out of all the fun… plus there’s more knobs to turn on the bigger one than the 200 dollars you spent on a cheap whore:D:hehe:
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But that would mean I would have to redo all my tracks in mashine - would it not
Also the apc has more knobs and buttons
And another thing the whores i sleep with have more warts than I would like to mention
Damn this music tech thing is confusing at times - should have taken up train spotting and gone for the easy life[/quote]
Just get some decks mate 
yeah but maschine is intuitively designed so you can go back and forth between control mode and instance mode/step mode while still playing.
copy paste pattern 1 in maschine down one line in an abeton midi track then change that line to pattern 2 or you can just skip using ableton all together and make life much simpler because what you just did is just what you have already done in maschine with multiple patterns. It just isnt needed.
you have 64 patterns for each sound(128) thats 8192 patterns you can use I doubt you would need ableton at all to mix and match and change patterns up. honestly if you used ableton with maschine it would just get very confusing very fast.
it feels pointless to reroute everything when you can just do everything you want in 1 or the other. my understanding is when you export tracks from ableton the fx comes out separate from the audio(if your using sends/returns) which would mean you couldn’t import the audio with fx into maschine anyway.
[quote]Mussi81 (02/11/2011)[hr]
Just get some decks mate :D[/quote]
LOL. But true say.
[quote]Mussi81 (02/11/2011)[hr][quote]slender (02/11/2011)[hr][quote]Walshyyy (02/11/2011)[hr]Because Ableton has so many latency issues i would do it the other way around. Put Maschine patterns into Ableton(using it as a slave)
also getting the mikro is cheating yourself out of all the fun… plus there’s more knobs to turn on the bigger one than the 200 dollars you spent on a cheap whore:D:hehe:
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But that would mean I would have to redo all my tracks in mashine - would it not
Also the apc has more knobs and buttons
And another thing the whores i sleep with have more warts than I would like to mention
Damn this music tech thing is confusing at times - should have taken up train spotting and gone for the easy life[/quote]
Just get some decks mate :D[/quote]
I do but they are at my exes along with 30 years worth of vinyl - i just have no room for them here
I dont know why all of you have your panties in a bunch over this. I just hit play in itunes