[quote]jon_fisher (28/07/2010)[hr]
yeah its called lucid dreaming and i would be cool with that as i’ve had them from about the age of 10, so i wouldn’t really notice lol.[/quote]
You can learn to control Lucid dreams. The ‘sort of’ defenition of a Lucid Dream is ‘to come to the realisation, in a dream, that you’re dreaming’.
I taught myself how to go lucid in a dream when I was younger and used to be able to control pretty much anything in them… it was awesome fun.
Maybe you could learn how to do that, there’s plenty of sites online that tell you how.
[quote]bouffont (29/07/2010)[hr][quote]jon_fisher (28/07/2010)[hr]
yeah its called lucid dreaming and i would be cool with that as i’ve had them from about the age of 10, so i wouldn’t really notice lol.[/quote]
You can learn to control Lucid dreams. The ‘sort of’ defenition of a Lucid Dream is ‘to come to the realisation, in a dream, that you’re dreaming’.
I taught myself how to go lucid in a dream when I was younger and used to be able to control pretty much anything in them… it was awesome fun.
Maybe you could learn how to do that, there’s plenty of sites online that tell you how.[/quote]
you know when you are sleepy,you lay down and suddenly get that feeling of falling but suddenly wake up? thats usually the start of a lucid dream, if you let yourself fall you’ll start to have really great dreams. a lucid dream usually starts when there is no time between unconsciousness and the start of your dream. the brain merges both your conscious and unconscious together mean that in a lucid dream you can taste, smell, basically have all the feelings and senses you normally have when conscious (can be a problem if you have sex in your dream). The confusing side of dreaming like this is when you talk to people and reminisce about things you done together and you mention something that they never did (only in your dream).
i had a very paranoid stage a while back when i had dreamed so much about this one life style that i wasn’t sure if my wife and kids were really my wife and kids or if i was dreaming them. it got to a point were i found it hard to tell which was real and which was the dream.
i’ve read in a few books that in a lucid dream if you are killed you can die in your sleep. the brain convinces its self that what ever happened, really did happen. i don’t know how true it is but i have had fights in my dreams and woke up with blood all over my pillow, with a bleeding tongue and nose bleed.
david bowie said that the hardest addiction he ever had to break was that of smoking… he said it was worse than quitting the charlie and smack… keep that in mind when feel down. youre fighting a huge urge in your bodies chemical system. you can do it jon 
Well it is noted that nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet - plus the social habit of it too. Apart from Coke and heroine most other controlled substances are less harmfull than alchol and nicotine. So western world drugs policy is totally screwed
[quote]jpgetty2win (29/07/2010)[hr]david bowie said that the hardest addiction he ever had to break was that of smoking… he said it was worse than quitting the charlieand smack… keep that in mind when feel down. youre fighting a huge urge in your bodies chemical system. you can do it jon ;)[/quote]
i would have to agree with him although never addicted to smack i did go through alcohol problems and a serious class A habit.
a doctor told me that tobacco is more addictive than heroin
its 1000 * more potent than alcohol
and 10 * more addictive than morphine
why we started in the first place is beyond me, i think mine was to be one of the cool kids in school.
I went to a second rate military school and started to rebel - what an idiot I was, my ex-partner, she started when she was 22 which I could just not get my head around - why start when you should know better
side effects are not as bad today although i have a new one. my ears are ringing, another one of the known side effects.
if the side effects haven’t stopped with in a week then i’m going to stop taking them and go onto the patches. i’ve already stopped smoking and have not had one for 3 days todays my forth day (i think) so with in another week the cravings may have gone enough for me to drop down to the mild patches.
[quote]slender (29/07/2010)[hr]I went to a second rate military school and started to rebel - what an idiot I was, my ex-partner, she started when she was 22 which I could just not get my head around - why start when you should know better[/quote]
exactly. my mum started again after being quit for 20 years and i could not understand why someone would do that.
on the flip side my grandmother smoke from the age of 14 until she was 84 and just gave up with out any problems. shes still alive at the age of 92
i started smoking ages 12 and have tried to give up about 10 times an never managed more than two days with out doing something stupid.
[quote]jon_fisher (29/07/2010)[hr][quote]bouffont (29/07/2010)[hr][quote]jon_fisher (28/07/2010)[hr]
yeah its called lucid dreaming and i would be cool with that as i’ve had them from about the age of 10, so i wouldn’t really notice lol.[/quote]
You can learn to control Lucid dreams. The ‘sort of’ defenition of a Lucid Dream is ‘to come to the realisation, in a dream, that you’re dreaming’.
I taught myself how to go lucid in a dream when I was younger and used to be able to control pretty much anything in them… it was awesome fun.
Maybe you could learn how to do that, there’s plenty of sites online that tell you how.[/quote]
you know when you are sleepy,you lay down and suddenly get that feeling of falling but suddenly wake up? thats usually the start of a lucid dream, if you let yourself fall you’ll start to have really great dreams. a lucid dream usually starts when there is no time between unconsciousness and the start of your dream. the brain merges both your conscious and unconscious together mean that in a lucid dream you can taste, smell, basically have all the feelings and senses you normally have when conscious (can be a problem if you have sex in your dream). The confusing side of dreaming like this is when you talk to people and reminisce about things you done together and you mention something that they never did (only in your dream).
i had a very paranoid stage a while back when i had dreamed so much about this one life style that i wasn’t sure if my wife and kids were really my wife and kids or if i was dreaming them. it got to a point were i found it hard to tell which was real and which was the dream.
i’ve read in a few books that in a lucid dream if you are killed you can die in your sleep. the brain convinces its self that what ever happened, really did happen. i don’t know how true it is but i have had fights in my dreams and woke up with blood all over my pillow, with a bleeding tongue and nose bleed.[/quote]
So the way I did it was to write a ‘dream journal’, sounds very emo but you write down everything in your dreams the second you wake up… then over about 2 months I noticed that a recurring theme in my dreams was apples (random eh?). Then in real life I always asked myself “am I dreaming” when I saw an apple. Soon enough I started doing that in my dreams too. When you do it in a dream and look around to see if you are dreaming, and the sky is green and there’s cows flying or whatever, you know you’re actually dreaming. Then you become lucid, and provided you don’t get too excited and wake up, you can control it. That last bit took ages. If I felt like I was about to wake up I’d stick my arms out in a the dream and fall backwards… that would usually keep me in the dream.
Never woken up covered in blood though Jon, that’s pretty wild!
My dreams seem just so real - that I have phoned up people to apologise for whatever I did in my dream - rather embarising when they ask what I have been smoking recently 
[quote]jon_fisher (28/07/2010)[hr]Been on the champix for the past week and although i’m not smoking i am starting to feel that smoking would be the healthy option.
so far in the last 3 days i’ve had Headaches, Difficulty sleeping, Nausea, sleepiness (even though i can’t sleep properly) diarrhoea, shortness of breath, cough, Panic feelings, can’t think properly, Tension, stomach problems, heartburn, pains, itching, sweating.[/quote]
good luck geez
i smoked for 10 + years and giving up was the best thing i ever did.
when you get to the other side you’ll look back and think wtf was that all about.
i never think about smoking now just porn 
[quote]jon_fisher (29/07/2010)[hr]side effects are not as bad today although i have a new one. my ears are ringing, another one of the known side effects.
if the side effects haven’t stopped with in a week then i’m going to stop taking them and go onto the patches. i’ve already stopped smoking and have not had one for 3 days todays my forth day (i think) so with in another week the cravings may have gone enough for me to drop down to the mild patches.[/quote]
when i got craving i used to eat something instead. now im a fat **** lol
no seriously it took my mind off it
[quote]Mussi81 (29/07/2010)[hr][quote]jon_fisher (29/07/2010)[hr]side effects are not as bad today although i have a new one. my ears are ringing, another one of the known side effects.
if the side effects haven’t stopped with in a week then i’m going to stop taking them and go onto the patches. i’ve already stopped smoking and have not had one for 3 days todays my forth day (i think) so with in another week the cravings may have gone enough for me to drop down to the mild patches.[/quote]
when i got craving i used to eat something instead. now im a fat **** lol
no seriously it took my mind off it[/quote]
funny enough the only thing that seems to take my mind off it is to brush my teeth. the problem is my doc told me not to do that too much as i could damage my gums and teeth :ermm: