…I couldn’t resist
But the whole WikiLeaks story is quite interesting to follow,
not from what’s being revelled perspective, rather the struggle
between goliath of governments vs the people
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and what’s your opinion?
…I couldn’t resist
To be fair i’ve not really been that interested in any of it, it’s not that i don’t find things like this interesting but more that there’s not really been much revelled that most of us hadn’t already guess or where surprised about.
I really don’t know why the government or any one to that matter bother’s trying to hide or cover anything up. security is only as strong as its weakest link and while humans are part of security there will always be the weakness of human error, if we ever got to a point that humans are not part, then the computers and machines that do the job will have been programmed by humans.
Also why would anyone be surprised at some of the **** thats come on the news about this. doesn’t matter if you’re a single person or a whole government everyone of us is capable of stabbing someone in the back to better ourself or cover something else up, using someone else to turn the attention away from ourself.
This whole situation is totally fcked up - the censorship that’s floating around because of this is so unbelievable that I’m shocked.
There should be ABSOLUTELY no way that the American government gets to censor a website that has yet to be proven illegal by it’s actions. When they get the power to start messing with DNS it sets a precedent for censoring free speech that ultimately leads a policed way of life. Say something bad about the US - get your website censored. File sharing sites, regardless of how legal - censored.
Who are the US government to tell ME what I should be looking at. I don’t, nor will I ever live in the US so they should have no right.
The argument is that Julian Assange and Wikileaks have endangered US troops / security but so far nothing has lead to any deaths… it all seems to be cables showing us some dodgy stuff the US government have been up to, that they shouldn’t have been. The powers in government are scared that their nefarious actions will be found out and are desperately scrabbling to protect them… they’re worried the balance of the people being scared of the government will tip in favour of the government having to be scared of the people - THE WAY IT IS IN MOST WESTERN COUNTRIES AND BLODY WELL SHOULD BE!
They’ve now arrested Julian Assange and are pushing for extradition. No formal charges have been laid as they can’t work out if what he’s done. They’re now pushing to twist some laws in order to screw him over. Sounds like the top 1% of the country protecting the top 1% of the country (recent tax breaks anyone?)
I personally think this is going to work - they’ll extradite him, after some serious fighting - the UK is weak like that. However, this is already firing up people all over the world… I think we’re even potentially looking at the first internet based war! Rogue groups attacking the US because of their illegal actions. Assange will be Martyred.
I can’t wait to see what peoples reactions to this are. So far we’re now seeing:
Ditributed root DNS servers setup by the Piratebay guy, that can’t be taken down by anyone and won’t be effected by US interests - This is AWESOME
Wikileaks mirrors setup all over the place… there’s now something like 500 of them! Try taking those down America!
I also can’t wait to see the other cables that are released… there must be some DAMN incriminating stuff in there if the US are getting so panic ridden over it! Apparently there’s even some stuff about UFO’s in them! (there’s only been about 1000 of 250000 released so far!).
I love the US, I really do. The people are awesome, there’s loads of fun things to do there, your women are hot and love my English accent etc etc… but your government man, it’s completely bat sh*t insane from my perspective. I can’t believe the stuff they get away with in broad daylight and no one stands up to them!
EDIT - Rebel Alliance Yo! Hackers Defend WikiLeaks by Attacking PayPal and PostFinance [UPDATE: Mastercard, Too] | Mashable
blame fox news. and the new republican senate. they can't stop talking about this ****.
blame fox news. and the new republican senate. they can’t stop talking about this ****.[/quote]
Actually our media seems to be towing the US line as well
Well said Bouffont
Its seems that democratic goverments seem to forget that they are supposed to work for their citizins and not for the powerfull rich elite.
much agreed slender.
revolution time anyone?
To be honest - looking at our students rioting on a weekly basis and other european countries about to crack with all the bail outs to the bankers and the common worker paying for it, revolution does not seem that far away
Meet you at the barricades comrade
Faux news is a joke. Every time I accidentally turn it on the headline reads something like this:
TERRORISTS WANT TO BLOW UP YOUR SOULS, FEAR THEM, FEAR THEM NOW. IF YOU DON’T FEAR THEM [size=7]THEN YOU ARE ONE[/size]
Actually, to go slightly off topic - from what I’ve seen in Canadian news and online about the student protests in the UK - that whole situation is f*cked too!
It seems like all the students were rounded up into a square then kept in their for hours with no food, water, toilets etc. Then were beaten and / or arrested when they attempted to leave. With periodic charges from the police on horses!
I tell you what, I’d have been seriously tempted to riot if I was in the middle of that fraccas - not because rioting is the way (I think it’s stupid), but more because it would seem the only way to get out of that situation is by fighting my way out.
Yeah its been a tatic since the time we had the G7 here in London - at that time alot of City workers got caught up in the crowd and thet took the police to court saying that it was a denial of their human rights - guess you can guess the outcome of that
Also we have alot more new laws concerning demostrations - ranging from not allowed to protest outside parliment tobeing able to withold people with out charge on the assumption youmay cause an affray
Our terror laws not quite as bad as the Home Security Act over in the land of freedom but someone can be under house arrest for life, which means you are not allowed to have a telephone, email or visitors - oh thats without charge - currently I think 11 people are underthis arrest but their names and deatils are not allowed to be released due to national security - sorta reminds one of Burma for some strange reason.
[quote]slender (08/12/2010)[hr]To be honest - looking at our students rioting on a weekly basis and other european countries about to crack with all the bail outs to the bankers and the common worker paying for it, revolution does not seem that far away
Meet you at the barricades comrade :P[/quote]
Shh keep quiet “theyre” watching us
I was doing some research on something and found this which seems to sum up this thread
[quote]slender (09/12/2010)[hr]I was doing some research on something and found this which seems to sum up this thread
lol that picture is great. i need to get a t-shirt with that puppy on it.
Totally agree with you guys! See ya in Guantanamo
But before we get there, check out this WikiLeaks Obama vs Assagne game: