Tech tip - Swing/Shuffle

nayrobi · June 23, 2009, 3:03am

hey guys,

that would be great to give an insight of that ! i always use a bit of global shuffle in my tunes, i never see that u do so in your tutorials. i am wondering why your tracks doesnt sound robotic or too straight.

i found out that loads of the minimal tracks must use a high percentage of the swing setting in ableton …

can u show how tu use that for great effect especially on basslines, hihats, percs ??

would love to see an prof. approach on that ! plz phil or bry or graham !!

anyone agree with that wish for a tech tip ??

cheers

robi

PS: have seen d.ramirez, funkagenda using the 50% swing setting in guru and put that groove to all their parts in logic !

i think thats also the missing thing on most of the “beginners” tracks that they are lacking GROOVE !

plz help thats really essential i think

Roben · June 24, 2009, 7:07am

This would be a great tech tip actually!

bryan_spence · June 24, 2009, 7:23pm

*noted

davidg · June 29, 2009, 12:53am

absolutly ,

I use to use logic or reason to get some shuffle because i didn’t like the one in live

Now with live 8 there is a real offer but it’s too much!.

What is the equivalent of 16B and 16D?

By the way congratulation for your amazing tutos

iandsm1 · June 29, 2009, 4:40am

Yes i would love to see a tech tip video on swing/shuffle with some examples and a explanation as i would love to add some variation to the groove in my tracks, how about it guys and great idea from the man who posted!

mejaques_uk · June 29, 2009, 7:56am

Cont me in!!!

One i’ve had problems with for ages.

chneb · June 29, 2009, 10:20am

count me in as well ! I have sometimes tried to use the swing mode in Cubase but not really often , this might at last solve my problem of mixes being too “robotic”

raymondsar · June 29, 2009, 10:44am

I’m in on this too. I have the idea and theory behind the groove down, but when you start getting into applying templates I’m absolutely lost on how to correctly do so.

Raymond

Roben · June 29, 2009, 10:58am

If not using the quantise options, what is a good way of creating a nice swing/shuffle feel that I do is take the ‘snap to grid’ option off and then highlight across the parts i want to give more shuffle too in the arrangement page then move them a little to the right or left till I’m happy with the sound i’m getting.

jon_fisher · June 30, 2009, 5:35am

i have guru so i could upload some wav files of maybe just hi hats on ever 16 or 32 nd with the 50 % groove applied and you can extract the groove from those loops and apply to your tracks if thats any help

nayrobi · June 30, 2009, 5:46am

@ jon

cool thats nice !

i only wish i have live 8… still producing with version 7 !

isnt it kind of the same with 50% global groove in live than the 50 % feel in guru ? or whats the differences in the timing ?

would be cool if u could try that bro !

mejaques_uk · June 30, 2009, 7:41am

Jon,

Sounds good to me - upload the files and i’l give it a go to see what the difference is like.

Cheers.

jon_fisher · June 30, 2009, 8:36am

hey these are just two audio clips of hi hat patterns very simple with the 50 % swing that funkagenda (spelling:D) uses in his video, and that minimal house kinda groove thing going on.

all you need to do it fire it into live andextract the groove and apply to all parts that require.

don’t apply it to your kick (lol) kick needs to be locked solid to the grid if you want your music to be playable to a dj

jon_fisher · June 30, 2009, 8:44am

hahahaha it would of course help you more if i actually posted the link to the files.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/d9h83o

bryan_spence · July 1, 2009, 5:16am

swing is a very powerful weapon, big fan of it myself!

but can be hard to make it work at times.

i will source a copy of ableton 8 and get you guys a tech tip on how to use it!

will let you know when you can expect that one!