Just wondering what effects you guys apply to a stolen/sampled kick. Because its from a commercial track, does it not need eq, compression? Hhmm?
A kick is a kick for me. If you nab it from somewhere it may be compressed etc, but it all goes back to how it sounds in your tune.
It might need tuning up, down, changes to the amp envelope or even compressing again, you never know.
The important thing is how it sits with what you’re doing I’d say, don’t worry about much else.
Cheers holmes, thats cleared that up! Just something that was niggling me
Well that’s just how I roll, others might feel different, but at the end of the day the end result is what matters right.
EQ where needed -Â usually have to take something from the higher end / and something in relation to the bass (if needed)
Usually no compression - except a bit of light glueing when sent to the kick & bass buss.
[quote]ICN (09/11/2010)[hr]EQ where needed - usually have to take something from the higher end / and something in relation to the bass (if needed)
Usually no compression - except a bit of light glueing when sent to the kick & bass buss.[/quote]
Cheers bro! I think I finally cracked it! … Noone’s kick is safe!!! mmmmoooooohahahaha
Make sure you’re nabbing it from a .wav file rather than a mp3.
Word! I guess CD’s are ok then…
[quote]gavisthename (09/11/2010)[hr]Word! I guess CD’s are ok then…[/quote]
They are.
However, you have to remember that commercial tracks are already compressed and mastered. That doesnt mean that you cant compress it, it just means that you are just gonna make it louder. Not a biggie, but I still do it anyways. Bottom line… trust your ears.
Sometimes though you have to remember that there is no point trying to fix something that isn’t broken.
If the kick is already solid, punching and making your balls tingle like they’re being licked then what’s the point trying to do more processing on it?
[quote]Roben (09/11/2010)[hr]Sometimes though you have to remember that there is no point trying to fix something that isn’t broken.
If the kick is already solid, punching and making your balls tingle like they’re being licked then what’s the point trying to do more processing on it?[/quote]
As I tell my missus … there’s always room for improvement!
Tbh i find it alot easier just layering up and creating my own kicks then all the fiddeling about you have to do to steal a kick in audacity. Also alot of the vengeance kicks already have been stolen from commercial tracks. So they hav done the work for you.
[quote]jjdejong0 (09/11/2010)[hr]Tbh i find it alot easier just layering up and creating my own kicks then all the fiddeling about you have to do to steal a kick in audacity. Also alot of the vengeance kicks already have been stolen from commercial tracks. So they hav done the work for you.[/quote]
I didn’t know thats where the vengeance kicks come from. They got big balls admitting that!
For some reason when I rip a kick and put it into ableton it never sounds as good as it does in the track I’m ripping it from, and I alway end up doing something to it to add my own “sound”.
Like there is one I ripped from an Armin & M.I.K.E tune which is really good at the low end and another from a Ronski Speed tune which is ace for the hi so I layer it, then process with EQ, sonic maximisation and maybe Rbass and more. Then bounch it back to a sample and back into the tune then sometime I put some further processing on it untill I’m 100% happy.
I have to remind myself however that a kick can sound ace on its own, but this dosent mean its going to sound good in the mix, so I always think its a good idea to have some hihats, bass and kick in there and work on them all at the same time until they all gel nicely.
Producing is so much easier when you just pick different samples and sounds that work well together naturally, apposed to trying to eq/compress/effect everything to simply sound nice together.
this is ture but I sure most people already have some kinda of sounds in their head they want to achieve and this is why so much time is spent processing and playing with patches etc