Understanding - EQ / 271

I was looking at tut 4 because bass is my weak point. Do you always keep your kick close to 0db? Doesn’t the sum of everything with a kick that high lead to clipping on the master bus?

Hey @MartyTheC
This is a course about EQ so levels are not to be looked at references here, it’s more important to focus on frequency ranges when it comes to EQ, not volume.

Absolutely, it’s the way it works, but again do not focus on levels watching an EQ tutorial :slight_smile:

Cheers !

dude has an awkward way of saying “bass”

Ima that dude, what wrong with the way I say bass, cause it’s all about the bass, bout the bass…

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great tutorial. Would love a follow up to this showing more advanced techniques. :slight_smile: Also a tutorial on gluing tracks together and accomplishing a more fuller sound :slight_smile:

Hey @djtommyheron have you checked the Protoculture Tutorials series ?? Outside the dedicated Cubase one ther’s really great stuff there in terms of Mixing & Mastering :wink:

ahh nice one cheers mate will have a look now!

nice one thanks ,I would like to know more about what the fundamental eq is and how to find it

Hey there @sundles

I don’t get the question, what do you mean by the “fundamental EQ” ??

This tutorial was the fundamental ( first course ) tutorial on Understanding EQ , there’s a level 2 & very recent tutorial here Understanding EQ Level 2 with Protoculture | Tutorial 01 - Introduction

Now if you refer to something in this initial course when mentioning “fundamental EQ”, please point to a video number and time frame where this isn’t clear to you :wink:

Hi

The question arose because in Tut 4 Mixing Kick and Bass at about 2 mins Chris says he is going to find the fundamental , I assume he means the fundamental frequency ?I would like to know more about how to find that frequency , is it the loudest frequency or the most harsh or something else ,how do I find it ?

I think I understand it but would like more info if possible

Much appreciated

Ah OK, the fundamental frequency, not EQ, it makes more sense now :slight_smile:

Well, reading your comment I think that you got the principle really, yes most of the time it’s the loudest frequency which is matching the fundamental note that compose the sound.

This is based on the relation between musical theory notes and they frequency equivalences within the frequency spectrum, each notes is matching a specific frequency like for example the A5 reference tone note A (440 ) is matching a frequency of 440 Hz.

Now when it comes to a single note played back by a traditional instrument it’s rather easy to see it on a FFT spectrum analyzer, but with more complex sounds like chords or bass & elaborated synth sounds, it’s a bit less obvious.

We can compare this to playing a single note and a chord in music theory : in a chord there’s a root note that is the fundamental and other notes that are related to this fundamental and playing harmonies, the principal is the same when looking at FFT Spectrum and frequencies, we can see fundamental frequencies but also the harmonics frequencies that a sound generates.

So if you play one A5 note, you will see a louder, dominant 440 Hz frequency in your FFT analyzer but also all the other frequencies : the harmonics that this note is generating.

NB : All of this is quite well explain in the Level 2 of Understanding EQ with Protoculture BTW, I suggest you’ll have a watch to it ( link in my previous post )

One very nice and free FFT Analyzer that can display notes + frequencies information is SPAN from VOXENGO, you can grab it here Free Spectrum Analyzer Plugin, FFT, Real-Time [VST, AU, AAX] - SPAN - Voxengo

See also the chart below as a reference for notes to frequencies but you can find many sheets & other information like this on the web :wink:
ChasinConversionChart.pdf (26.9 KB)

Hi Tekalight . really appreciate your reply ,thank you . that is really helpful .I am new to this .are you part of Sonic Academy? if so I love the website and really pleased joined ,thanks for the quick reply ,all good Ive already got the SPAN thanks and after a recap I will check out Level 2 . Many thanks Sunsle :slight_smile:)

Glad this could help & thanks for the kind words :slight_smile: and to answer your question, I’m just moderating the forums and trying to provide some first level help when ever I can, so no, not direct part of the team but we do get in touch when some issues or questions needs it. S.A team reads the forums too, so they’ll also see your nice comment about the site.

Cheers !

Nice

Hi, I was wondering if “sub bass” is always a separate element, or if it is often included or implied within a kick or baseline. I have noticed in other tutorials about making house/tech house in the past that there is no power frequency element called the “sub bass” and the sub frequencies come naturally with the kick and baseline for those specific genres. Thanks!!

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Welcome aboard on the forums ! :sunglasses:

There’s 2 common ways to deal with “sub bass” elements, some people prefer to layer sounds or instruments and keep the sub separated. While this can give you more controls on the sub element, layering has to be done right and can introduce other problems like phase cancellation in the low end.

Other people prefer to keep everything in one sound since a bass or a kick already have sub frequency content like you mentioned. In this case, you can use EQ and compression to control the sub.

EQ can help to filter unecessary sub frequencies and also to boost the tonal part of the bass or kick sound and compression can help with transient control and rounding the sound in context to other elements in your track.

Another common thing to do is to use saturation ( so adding higher frequency harmonics to the bass ) to help your low end pops out better in the mix.

But yeah, layering can be a good thing as well, but only if done right and it can easily get tedious IMO.

There’s a course about layering availalbe on the website :wink:

Tech Tips - Layering Like A Pro with Protoculture.

Hope this helps !

Cheers :sunglasses:

Yeah I think it’s genre based… house, trance, techno it’s usually a component of the kick and bass… for D&B, dubstep etc it’s usually a discrete element.

Although as with all things in production rules are there to be broken.

Whatever works to get the vibe you are going for.

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