USA vs UK

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No i’m not going into a debate about which is better :smiley: so don’t get 2 excited.

I notice that a lot of people on here say bugger, chaps, mate & other english lingo.

Plus SA is based in England. My feeling is that most of the people on here are European.

Where are most people on this board from? Europe and beyond? Or a lot in the USA?

Do you think that most European Producers/DJs look down on US producers/DJs?

I’m from the US. Born & Raised in Philadelphia.

My 1 thing I want to say is that the scene for electronic dance music is so much different than it is in Europe. The US is a hiphop country by nature. MTV, radio, all dominated by Hip-Hop although dance music is slowly creeping into regular culture. This is not to say that there is NO scene here (because there are plenty of awesome parties) but its not even close to UK / Europe. Most clubs play hip hop.

Personally I get kinda jealous of you all in Europe because dance music is the dominant type of music.

What do you feel is dominating the European market at the moment? How would you rate the dance music scene in your country at the moment? Good / Bad / Blah?

BTW - I’ve been all over Europe including London (best weeks of partying of my life!)

July 21st (my bday) - USA versus Manchester United in Philadelphia PA! hoot!

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[quote]UnitedVision (11/06/2010)[hr]No i’m not going into a debate about which is better :smiley: so don’t get 2 excited.



I notice that a lot of people on here say bugger, chaps, mate & other english lingo.



Plus SA is based in England. My feeling is that most of the people on here are European.



Where are most people on this board from? Europe and beyond? Or a lot in the USA?



Do you think that most European Producers/DJs look down on US producers/DJs?



I’m from the US. Born & Raised in Philadelphia.



My 1 thing I want to say is that the scene for electronic dance music is so much different than it is in Europe. The US is a hiphop country by nature. MTV, radio, all dominated by Hip-Hop although dance music is slowly creeping into regular culture. This is not to say that there is NO scene here (because there are plenty of awesome parties) but its not even close to UK / Europe. Most clubs play hip hop.



Personally I get kinda jealous of you all in Europe because dance music is the dominant type of music.



What do you feel is dominating the European market at the moment? How would you rate the dance music scene in your country at the moment? Good / Bad / Blah?



BTW - I’ve been all over Europe including London (best weeks of partying of my life!)



July 21st (my bday)- USA versus Manchester United in Philadelphia PA! hoot![/quote]



SA is based in Northern Ireland lol, thought their accent’s would give that one away bro.



Anyways there is loads of fantastic dance music that comes from the USA, let’s not forget that House music originated in Chicago and New York!

Urban dominates a large portion of our country (UK) to be honest, but there is still a large demand for House music, even though it’s easier to fill an Urban night than it is to fill a House night.

Personally I can’t stand Urban, it literally bores me to tears.

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Not sure tbh as you say Hip Hop/RnB/Rap/Autotune gone crazy over poor vocal performance as long as he has a six pack is what you hear majority of the time in the clubs and bars around north east, thats Newcastle to Sunderland and you have to pay big dollar to go to likes of Digital aka Shindig to see real EDM and the best producers in the scene likes of Pryda, Axwell, Cox all usual people, worth it though if not just to avoid Girls Aloud, Justin Bieber and all rest of the chart crap.


So from my perspective its a acquired taste EDM where i live in UK and is defo not the main genre for clubs and bars.

Hi btw too :wink:

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[quote]roben (11/06/2010)[hr]

SA is based in Northern Ireland lol, thought their accent’s would give that one away bro.

Anyways there is loads of fantastic dance music that comes from the USA, let’s not forget that House music originated in Chicago and New York!
Urban dominates a large portion of our country (UK) to be honest, but there is still a large demand for House music, even though it’s easier to fill an Urban night than it is to fill a House night.
Personally I can’t stand Urban, it literally bores me to tears.[/quote]

see thats the American in me. I couldnt even tell! but i guess i should have known!

Ive been to Ireland before as well and its beautiful.

I go to NYC all the time for parties. The scene in Philly is pretty beat because we dont have any great clubs for it. there used to be a number of them, but now all the owners have switched over to hip-hop because its safer for them.

Josh Wink, Tom Colontonio and Diplo are the DJs I associate from Philly.

However, New York is awesome. Pacha, Webster Hall, Cielo and more are regular visits of mine. I really enjoy where I live because I also get to go to Washington DC (which has a great dance music scene on par with NYC.)

Recently I went to Armin Van Buuren episode 450 live at Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Freaking amazing. Great party. John O’Callahan ripped it sikkk.

I know a couple guys from the US that I think make great dance music: Markus Shulz, Sean Tyas, Tom Colontonio, Filo & Peri are all USA people kicking *** in dance music.

However, i still feel as though hip hop dominates… atleast because it does in Philly.

and your right roben House is from Chicago & NYC. I definately think house dominates over trance in the USA. I personally love house music, but trance always has that special place for me!

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I though Sean Tyas lives in Switzerland? Is he really american? I personally thought he sounded british in his Future Music dvd?



Also isn’t Tom Colontonio Canadian? lol





Sod knows, anyways, music’s music, enjoy it regardless where it comes from :smiley:





FYI ‘bugger, chaps’ is SUCH an english stereotype, we don’t say that hahaha :slight_smile:

although i do tend to over use the word ‘mate’ a lot, but then so do aussies :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]Michael Alexander (11/06/2010)[hr]Not sure tbh as you say Hip Hop/RnB/Rap/Autotune gone crazy over poor vocal performance as long as he has a six pack is what you hear majority of the time in the clubs and bars around north east, thats Newcastle to Sunderland and you have to pay big dollar to go to likes of Digital aka Shindig to see real EDM and the best producers in the scene likes of Pryda, Axwell, Cox all usual people, worth it though if not just to avoid Girls Aloud, Justin Bieber and all rest of the chart crap.


So from my perspective its a acquired taste EDM where i live in UK and is defo not the main genre for clubs and bars.

Hi btw too ;)[/quote]

hello 2 ya as well.

thats interesting to hear your take on UK scene. sounds like it is pretty similar to what goes on in the states as well. personally i feel as though hip-hop is dying due to the fact that the quality of artists/acts have gone down the tube. its all about having a six pack, attitude and awesome marketing. lol. its a joke. i have a feeling as though dance music is going to take over again soon. once all the followers get their heads out of their arses.

i think as bands like the Black Eyed Peas start incorporating a lot of dance music into their shows & albums… the change will be gradual. WillIaM from the Black E Peas was quoted recently on saying hip-hop is dead and electro is where its at (check april’s rolling stone). hopefully more artists in the US will help move the trend.

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[quote]roben (11/06/2010)[hr]I though Sean Tyas lives in Switzerland? Is he really american? I personally thought he sounded british in his Future Music dvd?

Also isn’t Tom Colontonio Canadian? lol


Sod knows, anyways, music’s music, enjoy it regardless where it comes from :smiley:


FYI ‘bugger, chaps’ is SUCH an english stereotype, we don’t say that hahaha :slight_smile:
although i do tend to over use the word ‘mate’ a lot, but then so do aussies :P[/quote]

tyas lives in Switzerland (but he is from New York, definately has a NYC accent.). Sean’s brother ryan is a good friend of mine from when he used to live in philly. i’m a big fan of sean’s and have seen him play more times then I can remember.

Tom colontonio is definitely from philly. He is one of my good friends and I talk to him quite often. he and I did a bunch of parties together over the past few years when I was working as a promoter in the Philly/Atlantic City area. He is definately my biggest influence as a newbie producer. Although I try not to bug him with 2 many questions haha. 

and I’m with you. if its good music. its good music. who cares where it comes from.

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the main reason for people using the word bugger is because **** **** **** **** don’t work



thanks filter

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i had to edit my post because typically the filter proved me wrong lol

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Love this track… i think theres defo a crossover happening… lot more EDM coming from US R&B artist

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Ive heard a lot about that Kelis track, though this is the first time i’ve heard it. First impressions, and maybe the video impacted them, it reminds me quite a lot of Tiga!

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I’m from Northern Ireland and our scene is just ok, as is the rest of Ireland. Britain (not including NI) and the other parts of Europe have a far better scene in my opinion. Although we do have good nights out from time to time, and we do have Planet Love festival to look forward to, overall the Irish scene is crap (pardon my rudeness).



I’m not into this hip-hop or R&B at all. Although I have noticed there is more elements from dance music being used in non-dance so to speak.

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Truth is dance music aka electronic music will always bubble underneath the surface regardless of what the mainstream (commercial sector) is doing, this has been proved time and again i think already.

Back in 2000, when i was starting listening to trance music when i started secondary school my mates where like "trance is dead etc) its become a cliche of the many trance bashers out there but again its evolved taking on different elements etc and is still about, it always will be and from time to time the mainstream crap will take elements of it and fit it into commercial music around RnB and such as then it will disappear and indie will come back aka 90’s and so on but i prefer to keep the two different, dance music been a whole thing to itself and commercial music been just that a fashionable changing thing, many things change but electronic music remains.

P.S. Altough Beatport seem to make great fun creating countless genres of new music, should be called ‘BOXPORT’ for those who enjoy fitting things into boxes for every sound lol.

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The thread title made me think of this:



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[quote]bangthedj (14/06/2010)[hr]The thread title made me think of this:

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Pfft…

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Note they refer to us as ‘British’ too…

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haha…yeah sure the Scots, NI & Wales fellas love that headline, then again its American :hehe: