when i preview my samples wg a kick drum or clap etc…its really loud and clear once i drag and drop them into c1 for example on my drum rack it loses alot of volume???
is this normal or have i set something up wrong??
Please help
Samples go in at normal volume into sampler / drum racks…
Its just that the sampler or whatever is set at -12db. Thats why its lower.
Still all good.
Theres a few articles around about ableton that this is the max level that you should have stuff peaking @ in live and mix around it etc…
[quote]ICN (03/01/2012)[hr]Samples go in at normal volume into sampler / drum racks…
Its just that the sampler or whatever is set at -12db. Thats why its lower.
Still all good.
Theres a few articles around about ableton that this is the max level that you should have stuff peaking @ in live and mix around it etc… :)[/quote]
So is it not good to raise the db on the samples? Sometimes I have to because there is significant decrease in volume. I usually am more concerned with the db on the Master.
Yeah I was taught from the very beginning not to go over -12db since the simpler is set to -12db it is said that is supposed to be a hint not to go over
I disagree… it shouldnt matter as all the internal mixing is 32bit float.
I think its so when you set velocity to 100% at 100% velo you dont too much signal.
[quote]slender (03/01/2012)[hr]Yeah I was taught from the very beginning not to go over -12db since the simpler is set to -12db it is said that is supposed to be a hint not to go over[/quote]
So if you put a sample in and can barely hear it, you lower the volume on everything else?
I’ll usually increase the volume on the faders… its never too low for me.
I never touch the master output on a device (apart from lowering it if its clipping).
Occasionally I’ll get a utility to increase the volume… or if theres a compressor after, it’ll raise it a bit.
Im with Slender on this one, I usually keep the sample at -12db.
Think about it, once you load in other effects and what not chances are you are going to increase the volume up from -12db.
Percieved volume is key, you want everything to be as quite as possible (signal wise) but as loud as you need it (percieved wise), you can use other tools to boost that loudnes.
One cool thing I realised is if you use a Saturator at 6db drive, -12db output, 100% wet on a Medium Curve it tends to give you about the same percieved volume + warmth with slightly lower signal levels (though it does mess a bit with transients), use that and maybe drive it even more (careful of distortion) and you will can get some fantastic loud sounds at very low signal levels.
Another thing to worry about is headroom, you want everything in your mix to be as quite as you can get it without ruining it/drowning it out so that when you get to mastering/mixing everything will be that much easier… If your mixing everything around the -12db mark you will have loads of headroom at the end to really do what you want!