So what’s the best way to get that euphoria from a tune, Sure we could say experiment experiment, but i think that theres many things we can learn to boost our yield % of good harmony
My conclusions from analyzing midi, and tunes (I think styles & breeze are very good at euphoric harmony).
Majority of chords used are Major, either VI, VII, or III, with the most common minor chords being iv or i, however a chord will sound completely different depending on who its neighbor chords are,
in a way this is good, because it means there’s endless possibilities, but it makes it many times more difficult to master the art of building something that can make us cry with happiness.
-Borrowed chords (chords from a minor scales relative major scale, that is they share same notes) occur occasionaly in I and vi
-The chords follow a somewhat predictable slope of ascent or descent, when the chords do shift direction, it is almost always done with contrary motion between the bass and the melody note, (this contrary motion always hits you hard with euphoria)
Alot of dance music harmony is minimal compared to other styles of music, alot of times a chord sounded complex, but really it was only a two note chord with one of the notes doubled in the bass. Also 7ths and 9ths were very rare, yet P4ths and P5ths were very common
The midi of a great tune looks, in a piano roll, very… predictable. that is to say visually its very balanced and organized looking. so shooting for this can give the euphoric vibe.
-Having different rhythms for two harmonic lines, like a bass note changing pitch every bar, and the upper chord changing harmony every half note.
in my opinion the arrangement is so perfect in that song
I love harmony, but hate writing it cuz i know ill be sitting at the computer for a long long time.
There has to be a systematic approach to euphoria harmony that yields unique results.
I mean we can recognize bach when we hear his music because his Harmony has fugue style. Or Mozart had a very elaborated virtuosic style. And we can learn to write fugues and sonatas by going to school,
Euphoria chordal music just hasnt been established yet I feel like
[quote]Fluxyz (16/03/2012)[hr]So what’s the best way to get that euphoria from a tune, Sure we could say experiment experiment, but i think that theres many things we can learn to boost our yield % of good harmony
My conclusions from analyzing midi, and tunes (I think styles & breeze are very good at euphoric harmony).
Majority of chords used are Major, either VI, VII, or III, with the most common minor chords being iv or i, however a chord will sound completely different depending on who its neighbor chords are,
in a way this is good, because it means there’s endless possibilities, but it makes it many times more difficult to master the art of building something that can make us cry with happiness.
-Borrowed chords (chords from a minor scales relative major scale, that is they share same notes) occur occasionaly in I and vi
-The chords follow a somewhat predictable slope of ascent or descent, when the chords do shift direction, it is almost always done with contrary motion between the bass and the melody note, (this contrary motion always hits you hard with euphoria)
Alot of dance music harmony is minimal compared to other styles of music, alot of times a chord sounded complex, but really it was only a two note chord with one of the notes doubled in the bass. Also 7ths and 9ths were very rare, yet P4ths and P5ths were very common
The midi of a great tune looks, in a piano roll, very… predictable. that is to say visually its very balanced and organized looking. so shooting for this can give the euphoric vibe.
-Having different rhythms for two harmonic lines, like a bass note changing pitch every bar, and the upper chord changing harmony every half note.
in my opinion the arrangement is so perfect in that song
I love harmony, but hate writing it cuz i know ill be sitting at the computer for a long long time.
There has to be a systematic approach to euphoria harmony that yields unique results.
I mean we can recognize bach when we hear his music because his Harmony has fugue style. Or Mozart had a very elaborated virtuosic style. And we can learn to write fugues and sonatas by going to school,
Euphoria chordal music just hasnt been established yet I feel like
Thanks for any opinions on this stuff!
especially any chord progressions you love
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I agree with your points, I find it very sad that most EDM producers keep it very simple and safe rather than more melodic, but on the matter of euphoria. Euphoria for me seems to come from counterpoint just as much as harmony, because counterpoint adds the true finished element of any melody, otherwise its just mindless no matter how good the lead is
Think that euphoria you talk about stems from classical music. Especially music with lots of strings or great choirs.
Besides that, I think some trance artists are really great in building euphoric & epic melodies. Where lots of music on the other hand (especially rock & roll) are kept very simple. 3 chord tracks are found quite often. Google for them
Instead of being all technical with chords, you should sit yourself down at a piano and play & try some chords.
[quote]daniaan (19/03/2012)[hr]Think that euphoria you talk about stems from classical music. Especially music with lots of strings or great choirs.
Besides that, I think some trance artists are really great in building euphoric & epic melodies. Where lots of music on the other hand (especially rock & roll) are kept very simple. 3 chord tracks are found quite often. Google for them
Instead of being all technical with chords, you should sit yourself down at a piano and play & try some chords.[/quote]
All serious music stems from classical one way or another, classic rock for example is almost symphonic despite it seeming simple.
