There really needs to be a sticky about this. This is getting out of hand.
someone needs to lay down the law
funny - i used ableton before but moved onto cubase 5
i find i am much more satisfied with the songs i create in cubase than i ever was in ableton
i just find the sounds are closer to what i fell they should sound like.
other people seem to be able to get the sounds they want with ableton but nothing i came up with matched what i had been hearing
the stuff im doing in cubase sounds much less “home made”
so it is Thrue ? can you tell the difference when you master in both DAWS?.
i heard that too many times about the quality of sound between DAWS. so i guess is not a myth anymore
[quote]chekka (07/05/2010)[hr]funny - i used ableton before but moved onto cubase 5
i find i am much more satisfied with the songs i create in cubase than i ever was in ableton
i just find the sounds are closer to what i fell they should sound like.
other people seem to be able to get the sounds they want with ableton but nothing i came up with matched what i had been hearing
the stuff im doing in cubase sounds much less “home made”[/quote]yeah man …weird :blink:…i find myself going back to Cubase for alot of stuff also … & actually i think iam biting my tongue for getting abit excited about Ableton too soon
…Cubase 5 is pretty awesome if you really get the hang of all the new plug-ins & stuff !!! …& i also solved the interface problem !!! …4 screeens lol 
yesterday a bud brought me over a couple of screens he didnt want anymore & so i loaded up Cubase 5…screen1 “Sequencer” … 2 “VST’s” …3 “Mixer” …4 …key / drum & sample editor + beat designer & loop mash … its nice again now !!! lol …
& VariAudio is awesome …very nice how you can convert vocal parts to midi notes on the fly to create fast cool melodies …that match perfectly with the track …its pretty cool !!
I would say cubase definately sounds better, but ableton is way easier to use!
[quote]zefko (30/04/2010)[hr]hey guys
i like to produce techno and techno minimal which program do you think its better ableton or cubase?[/quote]
I just finished my quest as to what DAW works for me ! After leaving FL Studio I was on the hunt and tried many DAWS . It came down to Live 8 or Cubase 5 and my mixes where a lot tighter in Cubase 5 so I went with … Cubase 5 :P
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This is not meant to offend any of the others guys who have suggested Cubase having better sound quality BTW.
Meh all this stuff about sound quality is kina stupid IMO. I have read a couple of the big threads on other forums about this & I believed there was not much in it. I think it’s the same nonsense when you hear noobs calling other noobs, noobs becuase they use flstudio & that it doesn’t have good “mastering sound”
I think because Ableton is the new reccomended DAW for people starting out now, you will have more new people starting out not knowing how to get the “quality sound” of the pros & blaming it on their DAWs instead of just being a newb.
p.s Did I use the word noob too much?
I want to get a response from the Sonic Academy Guys!
S.a response +1
I used Cubase from '91 when it was a 24 track sequencer, moved to logic in '99 (when it was still emagic). Still to this day miss some of the MIDI porgamming workflows in Cubase. Love logic, to me just feels slightly more quality than the others, and have pretty much for the last 8 years, only really used logic’s own plugins to create music, said for a few synths, but never feel the need to look outside for other VSTs. As for Ableton, to be honest I’m not that fussed on it (controversial on here I know), absolutely brilliant for quickly getting loops and ideas together, but I think that is as far as I go, you seem to get stuck in a loop with Ableton, and loop based production isn’t my thing. It was however, a game changer when launched.
All that said, use whatever you feel comfortable with or lets you produce music in the way you like, there is no ‘best’ out there, they all offer different things. If you like ableton use it, if you like FL studio, use that, it doesn’t matter. In fact to me, it doesn’t matter what synths, eqs and effects you use, if it sounds good - IT SOUNDS GOOD, simple as. Just be creative.
Nothing to see here, move along now please…
hahahaha I love how my previous post f*cked up the width settings on this thread 
Scrolling across on my iPhone isn’t funny!
Hm, it’s really difficult to say, I like both, but for me cubase is more convenient, if you want to create techno or house you’d better to use ableton, I think… But for trance cubase is incomparable:Whistling:
Coming in a bit late to this one… but its not about what you have, but how you use it.
Cubase is obviously more traditional… Ableton is more of a new kid on the block.
Each have their strengths… and weaknesses.
You can do absolutely anything you want in Cubase. Unlimited possibilities.
Ableton’s stongest features are the fact that all of its FX are easy to use & are all over a lot of the Tech-House / Minimal tracks that you love… So you’ll be able to get into that sound almost immeadiately if you have Ableton.
Best of both worlds - have Cubase & get a soundcard or new midicontroller keyboard that comes bundled with a version of Live… Its the same as Live Intro & has all the FX & you can make the bones of tracks & export or rewire.
Personally, I have Logic as my main - but I also use Live Intro in this way. I find it a good little sketchpad.
of course there is a diff in sound quality between DAW’s …basically the better the programmers…the better the quality …the lowest latency & plug-ins !!! …
that’s it …that’s all
Adobe has the best programmers in the world …so its understandable that they have the best sound engine’s …if enough producers became interested in Adobe Audition it could & would become the best DAW !!!..it’s mastering tools are just totally awesome …the best !!
Audition kicks ProTools butt …even just Sound Booth kicks Pro Tools butt in sound output …
just the fact that you can take a favourate track …a track that you think has been mixed & mastered really good & is really loud & clear
& you really wish your track could get that loud while retaining its EQ quality “non destructive” …well in Audition or Sound Booth in just 2 moves all the frequencies & levels in both tracks are calculated …"i think, if i remember correctly… you can analyze up to 10 tracks at once "
& your track is pretty much guaranteed to be just as loud & clear as your fav track
…you might need to tweak just a couple of things abit on rare occasions…but it should be close enough …& finally its DC OFFSET kicks butt… the best !!
as a long time Cubase & Adobe user …i think if i didn’t rely on Cubase Instruments so much …i would definitely switch to Audition if Adobe was also willing to start to improve the DAW… by creating Instruments
whoops i almost forgot …& it’s Spectrum Analyzer is totally cool !!;)
yes, but ableton has the prettiest clip colours
I tried out Ableton and found that I really could not get to grips with it…It’s not that it is difficult or anything, I guess that it was just me!
I have heard it said that if you are into dance/techno type music then Ableton is the way to go but I can’t comment on that.
I prefer Cubase which has been around for many years now and in my opinion is truly great.
Reaper is not that bad either…!!!
Later…