I seem to be having this issue loads on my laptop - its a very new one as well (3 months) and a high spec so I’m not sure why this is happening.
I bounched tracks to audio to save and played around with my buffer size with no luck. the audio is chopping to hell.
Any tips anyone can offer?
nexus is a CPU whore. just saying. cause i know you make trance.
I used to have this problem on my old PC all the time with trance tracks.
Does it happen all the time or just when like the track drops or starts a big buildup?
What does ableton say for your PC… Is multi-core turned on in Ableton?
Have you compared your CPU usage in ableton to what windows says?
How many effects do you have running on the channels?
To your point… normally bouncing the tracks to audio saves you CPU time.
Just figured I’d ask a few more questions to help you narrow it down…
I’ll look into some of this and get back to ya!
[quote]gofunk (22/03/2011)[hr]
Any tips anyone can offer?[/quote]
- Read the Manual
- Buy Live (because the manual comes with it) if you haven’t already.
- Use legit copies of software and plugins if you dont.
- If you read the manual, in the preferences, you can change the buffer settings.
- If all this fails, start bouncing to audio (if you dont know how, then Read the Manual)
- If all else fails…get a Mac.
does anybody know what the default sample size for input & output is in ableton preferences?
[quote]UnitedVision (22/03/2011)[hr]does anybody know what the default sample size for input & output is in ableton preferences?
[/quote]
Hey dude, do 44,100 and 24 bit. Is that what you were looking for?
ok so it happens when there is loads going on, there is about 30% less usage showing in winodws then in ableton which is strange…
I have loads of fx’s and sh!t going but its trance so its needed.
everything is set up right in ableton buffer size is max out for my soundcard so not sure what else I can try… any ideas?
[quote]howiegroove (22/03/2011)[hr][quote]UnitedVision (22/03/2011)[hr]does anybody know what the default sample size for input & output is in ableton preferences?
[/quote]
Hey dude, do 44,100 and 24 bit. Is that what you were looking for?[/quote]
Isn’t that the export settings for ableton?
I was thinking more about Preferences → Audio
Input Buffer Size
Output Buffer Size
I’m pretty sure that its related to your soundcard’s input/output through ableton.
It usually says like 4092 or something like that. I’m not at home so I can’t check…
[quote]gofunk (22/03/2011)[hr]ok so it happens when there is loads going on, there is about 30% less usage showing in winodws then in ableton which is strange…
I have loads of fx’s and sh!t going but its trance so its needed.
everything is set up right in ableton buffer size is max out for my soundcard so not sure what else I can try… any ideas?[/quote]]
This might be the problem. And this was what I was talking about with howie…
The buffer size is NOT supposed to be maxed out all the time. Atleast on my machine.
I had the same problem when I had the fastrack pro. havnt had it since I got the saffire pro.
My input is always like half of what my output is…“i think”. it might be vice-versa. Gunna go home for lunch and check.
On my machine if I set the buffer size to MAX on both input & output, the audio
cracks on me.
I could be wrong but im pretty sure the input/output buffer has to do with your drivers for your soundcard.
Play with it and see if that helps fix your problem.
[quote]howiegroove (22/03/2011)[hr][quote]gofunk (22/03/2011)[hr]
Any tips anyone can offer?[/quote]
- Read the Manual
- Buy Live (because the manual comes with it) if you haven’t already.
- Use legit copies of software and plugins if you dont.
- If you read the manual, in the preferences, you can change the buffer settings.
- If all this fails, start bouncing to audio (if you dont know how, then Read the Manual)
- If all else fails…get a Mac.[/quote]
Most useless reply of the year!
I’ve changed the buffer setting and tried them all with no luck… I bounced audio with no luck…
Howie, did you even read my post cause if you did you would be telling me to do this as you would see I have already, well most of it anyway!
Do you have anything that might help me to say instead of getting on your high horse?
UV - I’ve done all I can with sound card and buffer settings - buffer settings are garyed out in ableton and I have to use the hardware control panel but every setting I’ve tried give me the same results.
Maybe something in windows I can change???
[quote]UnitedVision (22/03/2011)[hr]does anybody know what the default sample size for input & output is in ableton preferences?
[/quote]
depends on the soundcard your using - mine changes depending on ASIO or direct or between my 2 soundcard - right click on the buffer box and reset to default - that will tell ya
Wayne,
Not sure if this will help or not but its worth a go. I had a similar problem about 2 years ago using a single core AMS athlon chip i upgraded it to a dual core processor to try and reduce the CPU output and it was even worse. Now surely a dual core should handle it better than a sibgle core. I think it was Phil of S.A that answered one of my posts that helped. Update the BIOS on your chip - i did this and it reduced the CPU output from Ableton a lot. Worth a try - check waht BIOS you are using then check waht the latest update is - I Know from your posts your clued up on PC’s so shouldn’t be a problem to you.
[quote]gofunk (22/03/2011)[hr]I seem to be having this issue loads on my laptop - its a very new one as well (3 months) and a high spec so I’m not sure why this is happening.
I bounched tracks to audio to save and played around with my buffer size with no luck. the audio is chopping to hell.
Any tips anyone can offer?[/quote]
Wayne, when you say high spec, exactly what spec is it. Also what OS does it have on it, I’m guessing Windows 7.
The CPU meter on windows is always much lower than on Ableton, the reason is that the Ableton meter shows the CPU available to Ableton and it shows the highest level of the cores.
There are three reasons you are getting the high CPU.
1. That is how much CPU Ableon needs OR
2. Something else is using your CPU resources
3. Audio Interface drives issue
First you should uninstall the interface driver, restart and reinstall.
Next laptops generally have lots of extra software running on them so use msconfig to turn off startup items and non-microsoft services and test (remember to leave the audio interface startup and service items).
Also laptops have power managment that contently polls the battery to check its level, this can cause problems with audio software. To test if this is a problem you can remove the battery as this is much easier than disableing power managment.
Same is true of WiFI and bluetooth, turnt them off.
Let me know the results.
id check out your processor specs you have to understand laptops work a bit differently…
Also you can try contacting ableton and ***** around with buffer sizes etc etc
Sometimes tho a Mac may be your best bet because they seem to be able to cope with alot more than a pc…
[quote]jjdejong0 (22/03/2011)[hr]id check out your processor specs you have to understand laptops work a bit differently…
Also you can try contacting ableton and ***** around with buffer sizes etc etc
Sometimes tho a Mac may be your best bet because they seem to be able to cope with alot more than a pc…[/quote]
Yeah, Macs never have any problems:
BIOS is up to date, the audio interface is brand new and has the latest drivers - I’ve tried 2 interfaces and get the same results each with updated drivers and not installed at the same time. I’ve just tired with the battery out and no differents.
I’m unning a phenom II x4 2ghz and 4 gig ddr 3 which should be enough for what I’m doing. I’m sure I disabled everything in MS config that I didnt need - when I go into task manager and look at processes there isnt anything jumping out at me… argh… I only need to regained 10% - 20% and this would happen - easier said then done however 
[quote]gofunk (22/03/2011)[hr][quote]howiegroove (22/03/2011)[hr][quote]gofunk (22/03/2011)[hr]
Any tips anyone can offer?[/quote]
- Read the Manual
- Buy Live (because the manual comes with it) if you haven’t already.
- Use legit copies of software and plugins if you dont.
- If you read the manual, in the preferences, you can change the buffer settings.
- If all this fails, start bouncing to audio (if you dont know how, then Read the Manual)
- If all else fails…get a Mac.[/quote]
Most useless reply of the year!
I’ve changed the buffer setting and tried them all with no luck… I bounced audio with no luck…
Howie, did you even read my post cause if you did you would be telling me to do this as you would see I have already, well most of it anyway!
Do you have anything that might help me to say instead of getting on your high horse?
UV - I’ve done all I can with sound card and buffer settings - buffer settings are garyed out in ableton and I have to use the hardware control panel but every setting I’ve tried give me the same results.
Maybe something in windows I can change???[/quote]
LOL!!
Is it possible that running a macbook pro with windows xp SP2 via bootcamp will have more cpu troubles than running my osx ? just curious, cause I use bootcamp…
Well Wayne, you ask some really really simple and pointless questions. Ones that with a little bit of research instead of taking the easy way out, will yield you the answers youre looking for.
So, yes, I had a pointless answer, but you should stop looking for the easy way out and try to fix it yourself. Then once youre absolutely gutted, then ask. Besides dude, you have had two releases and you STILL dont know this stuff? Cmon Wayne.
But to answer your question, you need to resample. Being that I make dubstep, its typical that I use all my computer resources to make a sound, then I resample it to audio and then add more effects and then rinse and repeat. I have and extremely fast machine and I still have to do this. When I create a project, at the end I have like 30 ableton files. The reason is, because as I go along I will do something and before i start working on a different section, I will save. Then I start working on the new section and then save it as a new version. This way, I can go all the way back to version __ and drag in the midi into the new version so I can edit. Remember that audio is alot less forgiving on your CPU then softsynths. Once again, you would know this if you read the manual. 
So, please dont snap back at me, because you wont learn if all you do is ask questions that are easily found through a google search. Im just showing you some tough love dude, so dont get your panties in a bunch.
wasnt really a silly question, tried everything I know and I am very it literate… anyway thats more of a helpful response. Wasnt so hard to answer the question after all was it matey? you should try that more often 1st time around 