Surely you like the song because of how it sounds, not because of who wrote it?[/quote]
Well said.
Obviously if the name on the record had nothing at all to do with its creation, it is a bit silly but that doesn’t make the track any worse.
I suspect what actually what happens is that the DJ makes the creative decisions (is the producer), the guy sitting at the DAW is the engineer, the guy playing the instruments is the performer and the guy that makes the tea is the runner. This is normal.
Just because you do it all yourself doesn’t make you better. What matters is the end product.
I see your point but I think you’re talking about grey areas, such as those top DJs who’ve already established themselves and are just too busy touring and DJing to sit and engineer tracks anymore.
My beef is with people who don’t know how to work a DAW, don’t know how to make anything musical or even put in any musical ideas but mearly just pay some one who can to make them a tune and then try blagging the world that it’s their tune and that they’re a producer.
I’m sorry but handing someone a couple of hundred quid and ‘buying’ a track does NOT make you a producer, and it really gets up my nose when they say sh*t like “hey check out MY new track” etc. It’s about as much ‘their’ track as a track that i’ve just bought from beatport is, regarding their own input into the actual track itself.
Hello, interesting thread and interesting posts here
since the very first time i had a commodore amiga and was able to put together a rhythm with a bass line i had people around me saying “hey i am a dj i have a lot of ideas, lets do a track together” this made me think of two things:
1.- What is wrong with my ideas?
2.- Why this guy does not get computer same as mine to put his own ideas alone?
also when i finished a track and played it to my friends, they always said: “yeah this is ok but why you don’t do this way like this record i have here?”
everybody have ideas, which means : everybody THINK they can make music, cause those ideas sound very nice inside their minds! they don’t have any experience so they don’t know how to difference a good idea from crap
Even if they could, the truth is to make those ideas to become a real song with style and good sound is not only a part of the creative process they should learn, is the MOST IMPORTANT one. Many dance styles are simple in composition ( note i am not talking about trance! ), simple melodies, simple chords, (many tunes have just one chord all over the song!). Also dance music has so many style rules, intro/outtro, build up, 16 bar blocks, the rhythms, the kind of sounds you use for each style … almost everything is already defined! so the most important part is not to have ideas, is how to make a good track out of basic ideas… you don’t know how to do this process, you don’t have anything to offer ( besides money of course )
note i am talking about those “ideas” DJs say they have, its different to work with a composer who offers you a song he wrote, you like it, and you produce that into a finished track, or you have an instrumental, and send to a composer/singer to make the vocal part
Thanks for taking the time out to reply to some threads Kucho! Been a fan of your tunes for a number of years so a really nice suprise to see you on here!
[quote]jonsloan (01/05/2012)[hr][quote]daniaan (01/05/2012)[hr][quote]jonsloan (01/05/2012)[hr]Dr Kucho? THE Dr Kucho? Wow, welcome!
Hale Bopp is one of my all time faves.
Listening to it again now. Such a damn fine riff.[/quote]
Isn’t Hale Bopp not produced by Der Dritte Raum?[/quote]
Ahh, I’d not realised it was a remix. Still, I prefer the remix. :D[/quote]
thanks for the welcome, if you like the riff that has to be credited to the original composers as daniaan said they are Der Dritte Raum, my version is a version not a remix though , there is a little technical difference.
[quote]Roben (02/05/2012)[hr]Thanks for taking the time out to reply to some threads Kucho! Been a fan of your tunes for a number of years so a really nice suprise to see you on here![/quote]
thanks robin i love your airline tickets / pilot <–> djs with ideas comparison LOL
no question that Guetta is getting mad help. i mean i never heard of the guy until all the sudden he’s considered one of the best dj’s in the world just like that!!
seemed so quick!! it’s all about the marketing!!
Guetta proved that to me more than anyone!![/quote]
What? When did you hear about David Guetta? Just a little more love came out 10 years ago, and he was DJing before that, I wouldn’t exactly call that over night.[/quote]
The gimp use to be credible. Supposedly he was the first dj to play house music in France back in the day but I hate what he stands for today. Utter bull****.
