HTSL ::::: Breaks

As I stated before in my previous post I agree 100% with raymondsar. I dont understand how everyone can be so content or satisfied with what their hard earned money is getting them. $90 is a pretty substantial chunk of change, and if you think about it, what has it really gotten you. A few tutorials that are mediocre at best. As stated before it seems like these were thrown together in about half a day with no real emphasis on things that I feel make a tutorial “good”. Things like creating a polished, full track from start to finish. This includes background atmospheres, fx, effects, automation, mastering etc etc until the final product is done. Thus far we have gotten tracks that are more or less one min loops. I dont care what business you run, to throw out a product like that once every month is pretty half ***. It just doesnt make sense to me how it takes a month to put together a tutorial of the caliber we have seen. If it is going to take a month it damn well better be top notch and thus far they have been anything but that. I feel they should either pump out these 1 min loop tut things once a week, or if its going to take them this long they should be spot on. I would almost prefer to have spot on tutorials once every two weeks as I dont think that is asking for much at all. Not like voicing an opinion matters anyway. It seems that the mods barely even log on to check the boards and what the SA community has to say anyway.

I don’t really see why I shouldn’t use NSB as an example, my statement about it is perfectly valid. I’ve had help over there and not paid a cent. Congratulations on your DJing/Producer sucess - by the way, it’s pretty obvious you are trying to brag/float your own boat. You have essentially told everyone you’re better than them by calling the majority ‘morons’ then proceeded to tell everyone your amazing DJing conquests! Don’t get me wrong, it’s impressive you’ve DJ’d across the world but it comes across really arrogant and doesn’t really serve to prove any point . Most people on here are just trying to enjoy the forums in their own way, why do you feel the need to upset that?



I say we should keep this thread on topic really. If you’ve got 113 emails I’d say that’s MORE than enough ammo to go hit up the SA head honchos with a request to pull their finger out and release some vids. You’re not going to hear any arguments from me about them releasing more stuff.

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When u are such a profilic dj and u are on the road worldwide for 15 years now, than i think 90Euros are not as much a problem as u do – or are u so cheap and u travel for free to your gigs ;) ?
 
I know what u mean – I am also checking the site for new videos and stuff every single day but I think its not fair to complain as much as u do because the guys really make a great job.
 
I mean in my opinion it was worth the money with the videos I have seen so far… I really learned a lot and I have also a release and upcoming singles under my belt . so I am not a newby if u mean that.
 
I pick up every knowledge where I can because I think electronic music is really a lot about new technologies and things how u can be creative in different ways and I have been producing now for 3 years – I really learned a lot meanwhile and searched nearly every forum on the net for tipps and tricks and I also read the future music and computer music magazines which I think are just amazing – without them I would not be able to come up with tracks as I do for now. (I am a lucky guy that I found those magazines because here in Austria/Tirol it knows nobody about that)
 
I only want to say that I really know those ever free tutorials and youtube and so but they are all definitely CRAP in comparison to those in depth tutorials here.
 
Its def. a point of view from each person – but I am lucky to got those all important little hints as I got from the vids here …
 
But its over a month now since the last videos so come on guys I am also sucking for fresh blood !
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guys, were all equal. it just pisses me off that i get such retaliation from you, but no one will voice there opinion to SA. which forces me to flex… If I worked for SA you guys wouldn’t say shit to me and that sucks. None the less, yes I travel and stay everywhere for free, I earned it. No, 90 isn’t a lot of money to me, but TO THE REST OF THE WORLD it is. I’m closin this one out guys. Im gonna just have to agree to disagree with the lot. those of you that have emailed and spoke up on here, thank you for your support!



much respek regardless of my tirades



raymond



ps nice to see some of you chimin in about the longevity inbetween vids. keep on it, we can ALL make a difference. remember, THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!

Raymondsar, have you finished abusing and upsetting people now??



I have to admit, i’ve never at any point during my time on SA felt the need to brag my music industry experience. What is the point? It serves no purpose. Anyways from the sound of things, you have enough experience under your belt to have already had a few releases under your belt?



I just did a beatport search for you and nothing came up?



What was that phrase you said to me once? “put up or shut up”? Anyways you’ve experessed your views now, we have got the picture. Please move back to topic:



HTSL Breaks…



answer = graham ginty is on it.





Topic closed.

I must admit to being a bit disapointed theres been nothing new since the 31st last month and even then that was just a slight addition to the trance tutorial,hopefully there be some new stuff soon.

hey roben,

i can’t recall anywhere in this post that i said i’ve “released” tracks. i said i’ve been in the business for 15 years as a producer/dj. im in fact a senior sound engineer for one of the largest production firms in the world and have been cutting records since before you could spell uni. as far as bragging, i have the right, i bet you still live within 20 miles of where you grew up and have known the same ten ppl forever which is the only reason you get gigs. all your creds reign from your hometown and nowhere else, and btw, you jumping up and down behind the decks to shiny disco balls. plz. your the cheesedick dj that most of us hate that give the scene a fucked name. it is you that should shut the fuck up for once. i can honestly say that i’m starting to think your just an asshat that has to have the opposite opinion to everything. and thats how you consider yourself different from everyone else.



fyi, i will gladly post your links for you roben. so everyone can see how awesome you are and how really lame i am…i didn’t notice a single time in any of your videos where your weren’t playing some top ten bullshit and jumping up and down like your bringing it and everyone is hearing it for the first time! and really roben, you needed to have that shit on youtube like ppl were gonna be googling the top 40 dj from brighton? i think you throw your hands up in the air more than Bono at a concert. wonder if my boy jorge malo (im sure you have heard of him, he wrote disco balls) would get a kick out of your video…



topic closed





raymond



ps. touring europe and asia this summer. i have a TBA brighton stop right before glade. maybe we could meet up for a beer and you could teach me a thing or two. :wink:

click me and enjoy peeps



roben bringin it in London :wink:

click me too!



Heres a great one where Roben really lives on the edge and throws his hands up to a really sweet top 40 vocal house track. damn where do you get these tunes bro!?! it must take hours and hours of digging before each set to come up with this goodness. or maybe you just play what ppl want you to play for fear that you won’t get gigs. you’re obviously an *** kisser, and plainly put, your a pussy. I will be in brighton this year, and will make coming to one of your shows my personal mission.



raymond



especially since your such a selecta!

its now official, i can’t stand you roben. i tried to make amends from the last time you pulled this shit, and it aint happening. you truly are a fuckin punter, and have probably had many ppl try to kick the shit outta you in your life. although you would probably never run your mouth in person because you truly are a pussy. You look like you might weigh about as much as my wife, and are very pretty in your little tshirts and skinny jeans… but she would probably want to kick the shit outta you too just for acting like a pussy…



raymond



yep, im hostile ppl. and i do hit first. im not a pussy :wink:

hahahaha i’ve just had a really good laugh at your messages, you’re quite the entertainer arn’t you mr raymondsar.





FYI i’ve lived this side of the country for 2 and half years and those videos… they’re coming on 3 years old and i couldn’t care less what you think :slight_smile:



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hahah is right. it takes approx 7 hours to drive across the UK. so how on earth “this side of the country” is a long distance from home is beyond me. considering i’m from washington dc and live in LA, which is about 4500 miles apart, takes a week to drive, and still in the same country I find your comment rather reaching and amusing.

and regardless of how old those vids are, they still represent you and your style bro. i’ve seen your current tracklists, and your requests for HTSL’s. Also, internet radio isn’t an accomplishment. Passion radion as well as NSB or any other radion station will give anyone with weekly free time, two turntables and a microphone a show. so go get a real gig and then talk to me. also, if you really were doing all that you say you are, you would have more current vids than 3yrs old on your myspace. thats about as lame as me posting all the vids for when i openend for Rabbit in the Moon in August of 07 and acting like im pimpin it now…so as far as im concerned, this is your current shit.



go ahead and put on some coldplay and cry yourself to sleep.



raymond


I suspect I’ll get a tirade of abuse for this but: I personally think this guy is deliberatley trying to wind people up - this will likely be my last post on the subject, I encourage everyone else to do the same, or at least keep the conversation on topic.



If I may just add one last thing though - ranmondsar, you’re obviously not happy here, have you considered asking them for a refund of your money? They seem like nice enough people and it might be worth a try.

Its funny that i was gonna say the same thing i dont agree with putting down someones creative output  and trying to make them look like a twat its  a bit wrong raymond man ! just ask for your money back …

Just a little question though why did you sign up for tutorials in the first place?:smiley:

because “knowledge is power”

also, i don’t want my money back, i want what i payed for. if i wanted the money i wouldn’t have signed up…



the real question you should be asking is “why did you sign up?” you really wanted to pay to be part of a forum? cuz there’s not any tutorials on here that could really teach shit at this point. being that the software is outta date, the tutorials are outta style, and the tutors don’t seem to even give enough of a fuck to moderate this little explosion on the forum. much less answer help questions in a timely response. i guess you guys enjoy paying for nothing. im setting up a paypal account you can all send money to and get the same thing! NOTHING.



you guys deserve the bullshit you put up with. later.



raymond



yeah, my last post… go ahead and rejoice…

Thank fuck for that :smiley:

I am most disapointed with the support on this site. I do not ever get replies for problems I have. Also I am looking to learn a few specific genres hopefully I can learn them before my membership runs out in like 9 months. Also my computer crashed a while back. I figured I could just download the Ableton Production files again but I still cannot download them after emailing support several times. Hey could anyone please email me them or something if you have them.

Thanks

J

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! :smiley:

raymondsar -



If only you could hear the standing ovation I am giving. You have expressed everything I have been feeling in regards to my frustration towards this site. Well done man well done. Its funny to see how long this rant has been going on, and no Mod from the site has chimed in. It just goes to show how much they care about the voice of their members, or how much they really do “Moderate” the site. They really dont care, its as though they just want to take the money and do the bare minimum.