i sent the label the 320 mp3 file and asked could i take a look at the cotract before sending the .wav file… i don’t wana seem cocky or anything cos he knows iv never been signed before id say bu i think t has to be done…wat if he disagrees with wat i sed and wont show a contract? just drop the deal/?
[quote]deanmau5 (18/08/2010)[hr]i sent the label the 320 mp3 file and asked could i take a look at the cotract before sending the .wav file… i don’t wana seem cocky or anything cos he knows iv never been signed before id say bu i think t has to be done…wat if he disagrees with wat i sed and wont show a contract? just drop the deal/?[/quote]
it depends mate, its not always about cash. its about what they can do for you, if there is no cash fair play but what is he offering you ?
[quote]deanmau5 (18/08/2010)[hr]i sent the label the 320 mp3 file and asked could i take a look at the cotract before sending the .wav file… i don’t wana seem cocky or anything cos he knows iv never been signed before id say bu i think t has to be done…wat if he disagrees with wat i sed and wont show a contract? just drop the deal/?[/quote]
dude you had made the big step already to get attention for a label. so yeahh if they say that u need to first send the Wav Threatening that they will not sign you if you don’t . then **** em .
you tell him that is how you work with labels and that is how you do business.
sometimes you have to do that in order to net get screwed in the Industry .
there is many asholes out there that want to take advantage of what you do
well hopefully that helps
well, if someone is interested in your track, why dont you get on Beatport and look around at other labels that put out the same kind of music. do a little homework and get their contact info and find out where to send a link of the soundcloud file so they can hear it. You can always convert your track to a super low bitrate mp3 and send it off so they can hear it. if they bite, then start a bidding war.
its business bro.
[quote]roben (18/08/2010)[hr]Just thought i’d bring in some posts that Bryan made in another thread, they may be useful of the thread starter. As well as for the fact a lot of what you guys are posting seems to contradict what Bryan says which in turn, just confuses matters for the rest of us.
[quote]bryan spence (05/08/2010)[hr][quote]gofunk (04/08/2010)[hr][quote]bryan spence (03/08/2010)[hr]agreed,
send your details and wait for the contract, if they dont get it to you in a bit then chase them up.
labels get a lot of stuff sent through so you’ve got to expect delays[/quote]
yeah I was more concerned about how fast they got back to me as thats unusual! I’ve asked to review the contract in detail prior to sending any remix pack so on sat so I’ll hold off and see… I wanna wait anyway to see what the others say and for some of the bigger labels it may even take a month before they get back to you from the initail submission.[/quote]
theres no need to be suspicious. most labels are genuine.
just don’t expect to make any money from it if you aren’t getting an advance 
a lot of them like to give you a split, but you rarely see any of it unfortunately.
its a good name building exercise however, you have got to start somewhere[/quote]
[quote]bryan spence (09/08/2010)[hr]if you are new to the scene, i don’t think you can expect anything more than £150 for an advance.
it all depends how much faith you have that your track will sell.
if its a big label then you should see some money coming in from your %.
although if its a big label you should also expect an advance.
basically if your track only sells 50-100 copies, and you are contracted to 50/50 splits.
that is - taking 70 copies as the sale - 70 x £1.99 = £139
minus the site that is selling its cut @ about 50% = £69 for the label.
which leaves you with £34
most labels will have it stipulated that you will only get paid when your cut is over for example £50 or £100.
and some of them write your cut off against “PR” etc.
so you simply may just never see your share.
so that is why its hard to get an advance. the label have got to be confident that your track will sell £600 worth - or over 300 copies before its worth their while to give you a £150 advance.
nothing to get disheartened about - as i say its a name building exercise - and you never know. you may sell 3000 copies. at which point you will be getting a cheque for your share.
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[quote]bryan spence (09/08/2010)[hr]and what i said about most labels being genuine - most are. but there are still some dodgy ones out there.
the whole scene seems unregulated at the minute.
i have for example 3 tracks for sale on beatport and itunes, that i never agreed to sell. nor did i provide them with the files.
my track got lifted by a label who took it upon themselves to sell it to another label - but not after selling it on their own first.
none of which will take it down. - and Apple are about as useful as a wet fish about getting it removed.
so - long story short. most are genuine - some are not :)[/quote][/quote]
And in my case they sent the contract before I sent anything other then the 320kpbs, although I havent signed it yet as I got another couple of offers and am waiting on another contract to compair them.
Might be worth sending your tune out mate and generate some more interest and compair some contracts yourself bud.
yeh i got the contract, >>
Recording - "Dean Kenny " – “Nyx”
Artist Name -
Rights - Exclusive rights to exploit, manufacture, transmit, broadcast and publicly perform, synchronise and export the recordings in any format and media (now known or invented in the future) in any way Audio Planet Recordings considers appropriate.
Territory - The World (“Territory”).
Term - Five (5) years.
Samples - Label is responsible for all sample clearance and related costs and Label will obtain all necessary licenses and authorization for any samples.
Advance and Royalty- Advance - Audio Planet Recordings does not operate an advance on royalty service.
Royalty – Fifty percent (50%) of Audio Planet Recordings ‘Net Receipts’ in relation to the Recording, and ten percent (%10) of remixes resulting from Recording if applicable. ‘Net Receipts’ shall mean all income received by Audio Planet Recordings (excluding PPL) less those expenses incurred by Audio Planet Recordings and its agents which are directly related to the Recording. Such expenses will be specified in approximate detail on a separate listing supplied by the Company to the Artist and including by way of example - manufacturing, promotion, artwork, cutting, mixdown & mastering costs (if apply).
Artist’s share of ‘Net Receipts’ is referred to as 'Artist’s Royalty’.
In-house Compilations - Use of the Recordings on any Audio Planet Recordings in-house compilations, the royalty shall be subjected to the royalty rate of 18% PPD and shall be calculated on pro-rata basis and calculated in accordance with Artist’s Royalty.
Accounting - Quarterly, in a lapse of thirty (30) days after the end of May, August, November & February. Any Royalties that fail to meet the minimum requirement of Fifty (50) dollars USD will be carried over to the next quarter until they reach the Fifty (50) dollar USD minimum.
Jurisdiction Canadian law, Federal Courts of Canada have Jurisdiction.
Third Party Advances - Artist will be entitled to Fifty percent (50%) of any third party sub-licensee advance attributable to the Recording (net of reasonable costs directly incurred in connection with the relevant deal) within thirty (30) days of Audio Planet Recordings receipt of cleared funds (subject to recoupment on Artist’s Royalty account)
Schedule for progress The official release date of the recording will be within four (4) months after the signing date of this agreement.
Others Audio Planet Recordings shall be entitled to assign or license any of its rights. Artist warrants that he and /or producers of the recording will not re-record the recording during the term of this agreement – Artist possess full rights to enter this agreement and the recording do not infringe any third party rights. Artist agrees to indemnify Audio Planet Recordings on demand for any loss, expenses or damages it may suffer as a result of any breach of these undertakings.
If for any reason either party hereto materially breaches this agreement (“the Defaulting Party”), then the other party (“the Non-Defaulting Party”) must notify the Defaulting Party of such breach in writing. The Defaulting Party shall then have sixty (60) days from the receipt of such notice to cure such breach. If the Defaulting Party fails to cure such breach within sixty (60) days from the receipt of such notice then the Non Defaulting Party shall have the right to terminate the term of this agreement without prejudice to any other rights the Non Defaulting Party may have based on such continuing breach. For the avoidance of doubt, neither party hereto shall be entitled to terminate the term of this agreement without notification of the Defaulting Party of a material breach of this agreement and providing the Defaulting Party the opportunity to cure said material breach as set forth herein.
is this good? he was cool about sending me this before sendin the Wav, he also wants me to do some remix work
[quote]deanmau5 (19/08/2010)
is this good? he was cool about sending me this before sendin the Wav, he also wants me to do some remix work
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It looks like pretty standard affair to me. It depends on how much you like this label and whether you think they can help your career. Have you checked out their other releases/artists that you will be remixing?
Congratulations
man to be honest, i just say makin music as a hobby and never really intented to make any money out of it so if i made anymoney out of this track ill be delighted and it seems fair, like 50 - 50 split is probly the best im going to get! he wants me to export the stems too and send him the parts! can’t believe its happenin i never ever expected to get a track signed!
congrats dean! best of luck to you with it.
question for you...
how long have you been on Sonic Academy and when did you start making music?
thanks man i worked for ages on that track!
em, tried to start with FL Studio about a year and a half ago when i was 16, but im on ableton since i joined SA which was about 8 months ago, i seriously wouldnt have a clue about production if it wasnt for this site! still alot to learn but i think after a bit more experience ill come out with some better tunes!
I’m a bit of an expert in this field having sign many, many **** contracts. Looks fair enough, the only thing I would suggest asking for is a release clause - they have say, 4-6 months to put the track out, otherwise all rights revert back to yourself. You may not see any money from this deal, but that may not be the point at this early stage in your career. Talk with the label and find out what their plans are for, and how they are going to release the track. If they are talking about remixes this is another feather in your cap. If its for one single cool, however if it is for more make sure its non-exclusive.
Good luck with it
[quote]chris agnelli (19/08/2010)[hr]I’m a bit of an expert in this field having sign many, many **** contracts. Looks fair enough, the only thing I would suggest asking for is a release clause - they have say, 4-6 months to put the track out, otherwise all rights revert back to yourself. You may not see any money from this deal, but that may not be the point at this early stage in your career. Talk with the label and find out what their plans are for, and how they are going to release the track. If they are talking about remixes this is another feather in your cap. If its for one single cool, however if it is for more make sure its non-exclusive.
Good luck with it
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This is gold advice! Cheers Chris.
BTW congrats Deanmau5, what’s your artist name by the way?
Seems lately that loads of us on SA are getting signings, how good is that!? It’s all thanks to SA!
yeh thanks alot chris! i no im delighted! Im just going to use Dean Kenny, Deanmau5 is only a joke name :L or maybe i will use an artist name?
any ideas?
[quote]deanmau5 (19/08/2010)[hr]yeh thanks alot chris! i no im delighted! Im just going to use Dean Kenny, Deanmau5 is only a joke name :L or maybe i will use an artist name? any ideas?[/quote]
Dean Kenny works.
well dean kenny it will be have a look out for me on beatport:P;)
Congratz Dean!!!
Congrats dude.
How about Dean Kenneth?
Great track !
Lenners
[quote]howiegroove (19/08/2010)[hr]Congrats dude.
How about Dean Kenneth?[/quote]
(Congrats Man… 
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Kain Daneth?
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well done dean !!!